Re: Last Call: draft-jones-dime-3gpp-eps-command-codes (DiameterCommand Code Registration for Third Generation PartnershipProject (3GPP) Evolved Packet System (EPS)) to Informational RFC

Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com> Wed, 11 February 2009 20:12 UTC

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From: Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: Last Call: draft-jones-dime-3gpp-eps-command-codes (DiameterCommand Code Registration for Third Generation PartnershipProject (3GPP) Evolved Packet System (EPS)) to Informational RFC
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Thanks Dan and Jouni,

Seems reasonable. I did not know about 3588bis.

Cullen

On Feb 11, 2009, at 1:53 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:

> Cullen,
>
> The current allocation policy is defined by RFC 3588, section 11.2.1
> which indeed makes no distinction between permanent, standard commands
> and vendor-specific command codes and requires IETF consensus for all.
> This will be fixed by
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dime-rfc3588bis-15.txt
> but until this document is approved we are trying to answer the  
> requests
> coming from other SDOs (3GPP in this case) according to the existing
> IANA registration process.
>
> Dan
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ietf-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-bounces@ietf.org] On
>> Behalf Of Cullen Jennings
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:28 AM
>> To: ietf@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: Last Call:
>> draft-jones-dime-3gpp-eps-command-codes (DiameterCommand Code
>> Registration for Third Generation PartnershipProject (3GPP)
>> Evolved Packet System (EPS)) to Informational RFC
>>
>>
>> My understanding is that this registry requires "IETF
>> Consensus" as defined in 2434. However, theses registration
>> are being defined by 3GPP TS 29.272 which does not have IETF
>> Consensus. If the DIME community wishes to allow
>> registrations like this, why not update the IANA registration
>> process to be "Specification Required"?
>>
>>
>> On Feb 5, 2009, at 7:17 AM, The IESG wrote:
>>
>>> The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to
>>> consider the following document:
>>>
>>> - 'Diameter Command Code Registration for Third Generation
>> Partnership
>>>  Project (3GPP) Evolved Packet System (EPS) '
>>>  <draft-jones-dime-3gpp-eps-command-codes-01.txt> as an
>> Informational
>>> RFC
>>>
>>> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks,
>> and solicits
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>>> The file can be obtained via
>>>
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-jones-dime-3gpp-eps- 
>> command-
>>> codes-01.txt
>>>
>>>
>>> IESG discussion can be tracked via
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