Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet Drafts
"t.petch" <daedulus@btconnect.com> Sat, 08 October 2011 08:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet Drafts
Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 09:20:44 +0200
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---- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ellermann" <hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com> To: "t.petch" <daedulus@btconnect.com> Cc: <ietf@ietf.org>; <joelja@bogus.com> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 12:32 AM > On 7 October 2011 11:36, t.petch wrote: > > > No thousands of .gif to spend ages downloading, no Megabytes of XML > > that take half an hour to process, no https that locks up the > > workstation more often than not, no need for a user manual to > > explain how to do what; just a simple, self-evident interface, as > > simple as it could be but no simpler (a paragon of engineering > > design) taking me to exactly what I needed, almost every time (no > > irtf, but I learnt to live with that). > > > watersprings, you are sorely missed. > [...] > > >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/DRAFTNAME works very well > > E.g. <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lear-iana-timezone-database> > > IMO it is brilliant: It always lists all versions with relevant > links (including tracker and various diffs) in *simple* XHTML, no > thousands of GIFs, no https overhead, a minimal amount of CSS for > its minimalistic approach to show drafts as near to the TXT form > as possible (the colour-coded status gimmick is acceptable, e.g., > it caused no visible trouble with a HTML 3.2 browser). > Frank Yeeeee sss ..... If that is what I wanted; but I don't:-) I want an I-D and I know fairly accurately what it is called although my reference might be to an out-of-date version, or perhaps to a version that is yet to be adopted by a WG with a consequent name change. The brilliance of watersprings was I could go click, click, click and be there, with a list of close relatives, all on one page, NOTHING TO TYPE. The curse of WIMPS is having to move between mouse and keyboard. All keyboard is a pain, I can never remember when to use Ctl-Alt-back arrow etc. All mouse is a dream, and watersprings gave me that. With the current flavour of the IETF web site, I usually go via charters - WG - I-D list and then find 103 I-Ds in an order I cannot divine, give up and accept that I will have to type in d r a f t - i e t f - w g etc etc. Another waste of my time along with gif download, xml processing etc oh, did I mention all the javascripts that try to out think me and get in the way? mutter mutter I loved watersprings. Tom Petch (on a wet Saturday morning) > If that is still not yet minimalistic enough for you check out: > <URL:http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-lear-iana-timezone-database> > > That's plain text. You can omit -nn.txt in DRAFTNAME for version > nn to get the latest plain text version. Including IRTF drafts. > > Sadly the IETF announce list still does not offer links for this > repo. If somebody here has a simple "favlet" or "bookmarklet" > (= Javascript URL) to transform the announce list datatracker > locations into tools.ietf.org locations please share it. > > @Joel: There is only one rel="icon" PNG in the rfcmarkup HTML > for an I-D, size about 1KB. Is your 46 KB observation about the > tools.ietf.org page with the search form? If your browser can > handle OpenSearch description documents like most modern browsers > I could create an OSDD for you, with input DRAFTNAME as described > above and output = send corresponding HTTP GET to tools.ietf.org. > > -Frank > >
- Re: size of the XML of IANA ports Simon Perreault
- Re: size of the XML of IANA ports Joe Touch
- Re: size of the XML of IANA ports Simon Perreault
- Re: size of the XML of IANA ports Joe Touch
- Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet … Joel jaeggli
- size of the XML of IANA ports Joe Touch
- watersprings.org archive of expired Internet Draf… Tony Finch
- RE: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet … Adrian Farrel
- Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet … Sean Turner
- RE: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet … Dan Wing
- Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet … t.petch
- Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet … Joel jaeggli
- Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet … Frank Ellermann
- Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet … Joel jaeggli
- Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet … t.petch
- Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet … Fred Baker
- Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet … Julian Reschke
- Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet … Michael Richardson
- Re: Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Inter… t.petch
- Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet … Elwyn Davies
- XML-based registry format, Re: Re: watersprings.o… Julian Reschke
- Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet … Doug Barton
- Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet … Andrew G. Malis
- Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet … Elwyn Davies
- Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet … Jean-Michel Combes
- Re: size of the XML of IANA ports John Levine
- Re: size of the XML of IANA ports t.petch
- Re: size of the XML of IANA ports Joel jaeggli
- Re: size of the XML of IANA ports Joe Touch
- Re: [IETF] Re: watersprings.org archive of expire… Warren Kumari