Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet Drafts

"t.petch" <daedulus@btconnect.com> Sat, 08 October 2011 08:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet Drafts
Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 09:20:44 +0200
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---- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Ellermann" <hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkztdjz@gmail.com>
To: "t.petch" <daedulus@btconnect.com>
Cc: <ietf@ietf.org>; <joelja@bogus.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 12:32 AM
> On 7 October 2011 11:36, t.petch wrote:
>
> > No thousands of .gif to spend ages downloading, no Megabytes of XML
> > that take half an hour to process, no https that locks up the
> > workstation more often than not, no need for a user manual to
> > explain how to do what; just a simple, self-evident interface, as
> > simple as it could be but no simpler (a paragon of engineering
> > design) taking me to exactly what I needed, almost every time (no
> > irtf, but I learnt to live with that).
>
> > watersprings, you are sorely missed.
> [...]
>
> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/DRAFTNAME works very well
>
> E.g. <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lear-iana-timezone-database>
>
> IMO it is brilliant:  It always lists all versions with relevant
> links (including tracker and various diffs) in *simple* XHTML, no
> thousands of GIFs, no https overhead, a minimal amount of CSS for
> its minimalistic approach to show drafts as near to the TXT form
> as possible (the colour-coded status gimmick is acceptable, e.g.,
> it caused no visible trouble with a HTML 3.2 browser).
>

Frank

Yeeeee sss  ..... If that is what I wanted; but I don't:-)

I want an I-D and I know fairly accurately what it is called although my
reference might be to an out-of-date version, or perhaps to a version that is
yet to be adopted by a WG with a consequent name change.

The brilliance of watersprings was I could go click, click, click and be there,
with a list of close relatives, all on one page, NOTHING TO TYPE.  The curse of
WIMPS is having to move between mouse and keyboard.  All keyboard is a pain, I
can never remember when to use Ctl-Alt-back arrow etc.  All mouse is a dream,
and watersprings gave me that.

With the current flavour of the IETF web site, I usually go via charters - WG -
I-D list and then find 103 I-Ds in an order I cannot divine, give up and accept
that I will have to type in
d r a f t - i e t f - w g etc etc. Another waste of my time along with gif
download, xml processing etc oh, did I mention all the javascripts that try to
out think me and get in the way?  mutter mutter

I loved watersprings.

Tom Petch
(on a wet Saturday morning)




> If that is still not yet minimalistic enough for you check out:
> <URL:http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-lear-iana-timezone-database>
>
> That's plain text.  You can omit -nn.txt in DRAFTNAME for version
> nn to get the latest plain text version.  Including IRTF drafts.
>
> Sadly the IETF announce list still does not offer links for this
> repo.  If somebody here has a simple "favlet" or "bookmarklet"
> (= Javascript URL) to transform the announce list datatracker
> locations into tools.ietf.org locations please share it.
>
> @Joel:  There is only one rel="icon" PNG in the rfcmarkup HTML
> for an I-D, size about 1KB.  Is your 46 KB observation about the
> tools.ietf.org page with the search form?  If your browser can
> handle OpenSearch description documents like most modern browsers
> I could create an OSDD for you, with input DRAFTNAME as described
> above and output = send corresponding HTTP GET to tools.ietf.org.
>
> -Frank
>
>