Re: RFC and I-D Citation Tool

[Henrik Levkowetz <[e-mail]>]

On 2012-07-31 14:35 Steven Bellovin said the following:
> There are a number of very weird entries that require special
> handling. I (also) wrote a Python script to convert the XML file to
> bibtex and had to deal with a number of these special cases. For
> example, RFC 4534 lists the authors as "A Colegrove, H Harney"
> instead of "A. Colegrove, H. Harney". Other names like "The Internet
> Society" require special handling. And I completely punted on proper
> capitalization of the titles; I just accept what's there.

Ah.  I'll have to look at fixing cases like the ones you mention, then.

Thanks!

	Henrik

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> On Jul 31, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
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>> 
>> Mehmet,
>> 
>> The tool is not INTENDED to change the author order. A somewhat 
>> incomplete database can indeed lead to unexpected results, use with 
>> caution.
>> 
>> Ole
>> 
>> Ole J. Jacobsen
>> Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
>> Cisco Systems
>> Tel: [phone]   Mobile: [phone]
>> E-mail: [e-mail]  URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj
>> Skype: organdemo
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2012, Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich) wrote:
>> 
>>> Nice tool. 
>>> 
>>> However, I am wondering why the tool changes the order of the names.
>>> There is actually a reason why documents list names in a specific order.
>>> 
>>> Some of the citations appear to be incomplete, see RFC3410.
>>> 
>>> Cheers, 
>>> Mehmet 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf
>>> Of ext Ole
>>>> Jacobsen
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:17 AM
>>>> To: The IETF
>>>> Cc: RSOC; Heather Flanagan; [e-mail]
>>>> Subject: RFC and I-D Citation Tool
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> In The Internet Protocol Journal I have been using the following
>>>> citation format, best illustrated by an example:
>>>> 
>>>> Julien Meuric, Diego Caviglia, Don Fedyk, Attila Takacs, and Lou
>>>> Berger, "GMPLS Asymmetric Bandwidth Bidirectional Label Switched
>>>> Paths (LSPs)," RFC 6387, September 2011.
>>>> 
>>>> So, that's full author names "and" before the last author name, title,
>>>> document number and date, using the American "quotation outside
>>>> punctuation rule."
>>>> 
>>>> I got tired of doing this "by hand" so I asked Henrik if he could
>>>> write me a tool. He did (THANKS!), and the result is here:
>>>> 
>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/citation/
>>>> 
>>>> This will take either the draft name or the RFC number as input and
>>>> produce a citation similar to the one above. You can of course play
>>>> with the elements and generate a format that suits your own taste, for
>>>> example, for I-Ds, in print it might be good to have the FILE NAME as
>>>> the last entry:
>>>> 
>>>> Adam Langley, "Serializing DNS Records with DNSSEC Authentication,"
>>>> Internet Draft, work in progress, July 2011,
>>>> draft-agl-dane-serializechain-01
>>>> 
>>>> ...since I like having filenames or URLs on one line (not wrapping)
>>>> as much as possible.
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks again to Henrik, and I hope you will find it useful too!
>>>> 
>>>> Ole
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ole J. Jacobsen
>>>> Editor and Publisher,  The Internet Protocol Journal
>>>> Cisco Systems
>>>> Tel: [phone]   Mobile: [phone]
>>>> E-mail: [e-mail]  URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj
>>>> Skype: organdemo
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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