Re: Where to find IETF recommendations?

Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> Tue, 01 March 2011 20:48 UTC

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Subject: Re: Where to find IETF recommendations?
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On 3/1/11 12:43 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> On 2011-03-02 01:29, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 01:18:12PM +0100, Shane Kerr wrote:
>>
>>> FWIW, this came up in the dnsext working group a few years ago. In the
>>> end, I don't think anything was done, which is kind of a shame. 
>>
>> Nothing was done for want of workers ;-) We concluded there was no
>> real room in official IETF channels for such a publication, 
> 
> I have asserted for some years that the "Applicability Statement"
> subset of the standards track, defined in RFC 2026, could perfectly well
> be used for explaining how a group of RFCs fit together. There have
> been various proposals for more specific methods than that which haven't
> caught on, but the real problem has already been mentioned:

in v6ops ops we have documents like:

http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-jankiewicz-v6ops-v4v6biblio-03.txt

opsec

http://tools.ietf.org/wg/opsec/draft-ietf-opsec-efforts/

>>>> Nothing was done for want of workers ;-)
> 
> It is a lot of work. I've done it for IETF process RFCs and even that
> was a lot of work:
> http://www.ietf.org/about/process-docs.html
> 
>     Brian
> 
> 
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