Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-rip-06.txt> (A YANG Data Model for Routing Information Protocol (RIP)) to Proposed Standard

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Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-rip-06.txt> (A YANG Data Model for Routing Information Protocol (RIP)) to Proposed Standard
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 I think that this I-D falls somewhat short of the standard necessary
for
 advancement.

 'reference' statements are almost wholy lacking from the YANG module
and
 while it might be reasonable to expect the reader to know where to find
 information on RIP or RIPng, I do not think that that extends to other
IGP or
 IPsec.  If you want to see how it SHOULD be done, look at
        draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7277bis-01
 One or more 'reference' statement per 'container' or'leaf' statement is
 a good starting point.

 Talking of which,
    [I-D.bjorklund-netmod-rfc7223bis]
    [I-D.bjorklund-netmod-rfc7277bis]
    [I-D.acee-netmod-rfc8022bis]
 have all been replaced.  I am unclear whether or not this invalidates
 the announcement, since these appeared in the announcement as downrefs.

 Common (best) practice is to then include all the references from the
 YANG module in a separate section immediately prior to the module
itself
 so that the reader can readily find them.
 Again
        draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7277bis-01
 Section 4 is an example of how to do this.

 The YANG module does reference
           RFC 1724
 but I think that that makes it Normative not Informative, as it
 currently is.

 The Abstract is limp.
 "This document describes a data model for the Routing Information
    Protocol (RIP).  "
 So what?.  This should tell me what I can do, e.g. configure, manage,
 get statistics or what?
 draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7277bis-01
 gives a better example.  At this point in time, with NMDA causing
 significant changes, the Abstract would do well to mention where the
I-D
 stands with regard to this.

 There is now an emerging RFC on tree diagrams
 draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-03
 The authors might consider using and referencing this.

 Tom Petch

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "The IESG" <iesg-secretary@ietf.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 4:29 PM
> >
> > The IESG has received a request from the Routing Area Working Group
WG
> > (rtgwg) to consider the following document: - 'A YANG Data Model for
> Routing
> > Information Protocol (RIP)'
> >   <draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-rip-06.txt> as Proposed Standard
> >
> > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and
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> > Abstract
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> >    This document describes a data model for the Routing Information
> >    Protocol (RIP).  Both RIP version 2 and RIPng are covered.
> >
>