Re: Google Statistics for IPv6 adoption.

Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> Sat, 15 April 2017 18:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: Google Statistics for IPv6 adoption.
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
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There is not a correlation between this graph and traffic the way you purport hence the [missing citation] aspect of the discussion. An enterprise actually moves less traffic than a consumer on a per user basis, so if a home is IPv6 enabled and runs a lot of YouTube, Netflix, etc the bits per IP are not equal. 

Enterprise, eyeball and wholesale networks have vastly different traffic characteristics. If you use the Alexa top 1000 or 1 million you see many IPv6 enabled sites as they are hosted on cloudflare which dual stacks by default vs other CDNs that don't. 

Using one datapoint, an ad network (google) is helpful to understand what browser users might look like but a set top box without a browser may move significantly more bits and not be apparent at all in the IPv6 stats at google. 

Hope this helps. 

Jared Mauch

> On Apr 15, 2017, at 1:52 PM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Christopher,
>  
> > 'what was said earlier' - citation requested.
>  
> What I said means that since I wrote the IPv10 I-D on Google blogger, I wrote that the deployment of IPv6 is about 5% of the Internet traffic, and I got responses from some IETF members Just claiming that this is a wrong percentage and the real exceeds 60% and gave me some examples of mobile providers’ statistics.
>  
> So, this Google statistics confirms what I had said earlier because I got this percent from some online statistics that belongs to the IP address assignment process.
>  
> I would like to thank Google for the efforts made to make this measurements and provide a respectful and real statistics that describes the recent situation so we can make decisions based on it.
>  
> Best Regards,
>  
> Khaled Omar
>  
>  
> From: christopher.morrow@gmail.com [mailto:christopher.morrow@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Morrow
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 7:16 PM
> To: Khaled Omar
> Cc: int-area; intarea-ads; ietf; intarea-chairs
> Subject: Re: Google Statistics for IPv6 adoption.
>  
>  
>  
> On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Please check out this link that shows the statistics of the IPv6 adoption over the past 10 years maybe it will make you believe what was said earlier.
>  
> 'what was said earlier' - citation requested.
>  
> 
>  https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html
> 
> Recent IPv6 adoption (April, 2017) is:
> 14.83% Native - 0.03% 6to4 - 14.87% Total
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Khaled Omar
>