Re: Appeal's purposes (was appeals, post-appeal, etc.)
JFC Morfin <jefsey@jefsey.com> Sat, 22 July 2006 23:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: Appeal's purposes (was appeals, post-appeal, etc.)
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At 16:41 22/07/2006, John C Klensin wrote: >We have appeals to the IESG about IESG >actions precisely because the function of such an appeal is to >say "you may not have understood the issues correctly, please >take another look, considering these issues in particular" Dear John, you miss an important role of the appeal IMHO. The possibility to get a documented position from the IETF on a point a WG process refused to address. To protest that a point has not been addressed is unfair if it has not been appealed - even if one known the answer. Users will not know. As far as I am concerned the most important contributions in the case of RFC 3066 Bis were made by the IESG. To permit interoperability the need was not to change the document but to get clear IETF positions. I obtained many clarifications in the document itself, against my propositions. The appealed points and their responses (for RFC 3066 Bis and the Draft in filtering) were/are necessary to the http://bcp47.com which will document how to use the BCP from the Multilingual Internet. This should result in an I-D. I documented this a long ago. I do not consider this as obstruction, but as normal, fair, and positive Internet standard process application. This is what is DoSed: I fully understand that this may irritate some who preferred a certain confusion degree. However, if a BCP purposely does not document all the existing practices the market may chose from, this must be seriously and authoritatively documented. This authority can only come from the IESG and of the IAB. jfc _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- Appeals, post-appeal discussions, DoS attacks on … John C Klensin
- Re: Appeals, post-appeal discussions, DoS attacks… JFC Morfin
- Re: Appeal's purposes (was appeals, post-appeal, … JFC Morfin
- Re: Appeals, post-appeal discussions, DoS attacks… Frank Ellermann
- Re: Appeals, post-appeal discussions, DoS attacks… John C Klensin
- Re: Appeals, post-appeal discussions, DoS attacks… Frank Ellermann
- IANA, Unicode, and the multilingual Internet Martin Duerst
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