Re: Proposed Group: CoVid-19 Remote Meet, Work, Class Community Group
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Tue, 10 March 2020 19:03 UTC
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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Larry Masinter <LMM@acm.org>
Cc: 'Joseph Potvin' <jpotvin@xalgorithms.org>, manycouches@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Proposed Group: CoVid-19 Remote Meet, Work, Class Community Group
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[Bcc'ing IETF. Folks, lets move these virtual conferencing technical dicussions off IETF mailing list] BCP: Dare to try, experiment, refine, do not give up, succeed. Aka: Even if you didn't have to change/improve tooling but you already picked the best ones available for your situation, the participants will still need a lot of time to adopt the new technologies, especially in my experience how older they get and the less use of those technologies they had in before. I got scolded for that remark in PM yesterday, but i stand by it, especially when i am getting older myself, its not disdain, its IMHO just human nature. In 1992 i got funding for the university computing centers chief executives in Bavaria to use video-conferencing (mbone tools of course back then). For the first half a year those executives where complaining and hating it and required some hand-holding. After that half a year they eliminated a lot of in-person travel and actually started to love the beast. (sorry, if my stories are also old). All the available competitors to the webex option we know from IETF are probbly mostly comparable. There may be specific detail features that make one better than the other, but you'll only figure this out through experimentation yourself or hopefully asking for more specific feature experience from othres, like on manycouches. For mostly unidirectional communications like what we really do with meetecho, the list of options is even larger, and i have no good overview. Cheers Toerless On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 10:12:06AM -0700, Larry Masinter wrote: > * global call-to-action for the ISoc/IRTF/IETF, W3C, Apache, Linux Foundation, FSF, OSI, etc. communities > > > > I thought we might need a group focused on guidelines for people faced with an immediate need to support virtual meetings, work from home, remote classes. > > What are best practices? For the world, not just for IETF; for immediate effect, not just ???some day??? (subject of Manycouches discussion). > > > > > > > > https://www.w3.org/community/blog/2020/03/10/proposed-group-covid-19-remote-meet-work-class-community-group/ > > > > > > > > From: Manycouches <manycouches-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Joseph Potvin > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 9:39 AM > To: IETF Rinse Repeat <ietf@ietf.org>; manycouches@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Manycouches] [107all] Update on IETF 107 Vancouver and COVID-19 > > > > RE: "I don't have any idea whether anything on this thread recently, including this note, are of value to the people actually making > the decision as to whether to hold a f2f meeting" > > > > I suggest that the current scenario is a impromptu resilience test and global call-to-action for the ISoc/IRTF/IETF, W3C, Apache, Linux Foundation, FSF, OSI, etc. communities. > > > > > Joseph Potvin > Executive Director, Xalgorithms Foundation > Mobile: 819-593-5983 <tel:819-593-5983> > jpotvin@xalgorithms.org <mailto:jpotvin@xalgorithms.org> > https://www.xalgorithms.org <https://www.xalgorithms.org> > > > > > -- --- tte@cs.fau.de
- Proposed Group: CoVid-19 Remote Meet, Work, Class… Larry Masinter
- Re: Proposed Group: CoVid-19 Remote Meet, Work, C… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- RE: Proposed Group: CoVid-19 Remote Meet, Work, C… Larry Masinter
- Re: Proposed Group: CoVid-19 Remote Meet, Work, C… Toerless Eckert