Re: TLS requirements (Last Call: draft-ietf-atompub-protocol to Proposed Standard)

Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> Wed, 14 March 2007 12:35 UTC

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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:35:34 +0100
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Subject: Re: TLS requirements (Last Call: draft-ietf-atompub-protocol to Proposed Standard)
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On 2007-03-13 20:43, Cyrus Daboo wrote:
> Hi Robert,
> 
> --On March 13, 2007 3:23:22 PM -0400 Robert Sayre <rsayre@mozilla.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> This text is actively misleading, because it suggests RFC 4346 is
>> included for informational purposes. The text should read:
>>
>> "At a minimum, client and server implementations MUST be capable of
>>  being configured to use HTTP Basic Authentication [RFC2617] in
>>  conjunction with a TLS connection as specified by [RFC2818] and
>>  [RFC4346]."
> 
> The text that got used in CalDAV (which is about to be published) is:
> 
>   o  MUST support transport over TLS [RFC2246] as defined in [RFC2818]
>      (note that [RFC2246] has been obsoleted by [RFC4346]);
> 
> with 2246, 2818 and 4346 all normative references. These type of 
> "up-references" are not ideal and I believe there was some discussion 
> going on somewhere about how better to deal with this type of situation.

You may be thinking of draft-klensin-norm-ref, which is in Last Call
as BCP through Friday this week.

Just to confirm: 2818 has already been "downrefed" so it can be used in
this way without further formality.

http://www1.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/DownrefRegistry

     Brian

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