Re: wireless geolocation
Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Tue, 06 June 2017 16:48 UTC
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From: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 12:48:04 -0400
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Subject: Re: wireless geolocation
To: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Cc: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, IETF Rinse Repeat <ietf@ietf.org>
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On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote: > Why do we even have a stable IP address range anymore? It seems like an unnecessary lift. If we just take what the ISP offers (IPv4 and IPv6) and use that, why is that not good enough? Because we use a *large* amount of address space - we (currently) give everyone a public IP address, we have multiple SSIDs / networks, etc. ISPs would be quite unlikely to be willing to give us a big enough block, we (often) also have multiple providers, etc. We would also need to renumber all of our infrastructure, redo DNS, etc. We currently publish geo-location info in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-google-self-published-geofeeds-02 format -- noc.ietf.org/geo/google.csv. This gets updated (assuming I / we don't forget :-)) before each meeting, and should be imported by google in advance of the meeting... But, much of the issue is location being tied to the MAC address of the APs, not just the source IP. There are lots of geo providers, and they all need to be updated, etc. W -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf
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- Re: wireless geolocation Ted Lemon
- Re: wireless geolocation Warren Kumari
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- Re: wireless geolocation Theodore V Faber
- Re: wireless geolocation Theodore Ts'o
- Re: wireless geolocation Ted Lemon
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- Re: adaptive wireless mis-geolocation John Levine
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