Re: admin director (was The other parts of the report..)
Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> Mon, 13 September 2004 15:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: admin director (was The other parts of the report..)
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We have to bootstrap somehow. Asking ISOC to hire someone, on a fixed term contract of employment, would work for me. Of course, the team that searches for and interviews the candidates has to start by writing a job description. Brian John C Klensin wrote: > > --On Friday, 10 September, 2004 08:49 -0400 scott bradner > <sob@harvard.edu> wrote: > > >>imo we should start a search for a Administrative Director now > > > Good idea, except... > > * We have only the vaguest of job descriptions > > * We don't know who the individual would actually be > working for organizationally, which could make a > difference in who would be interested > > * We don't know enough about organizational structure to > be able to have a serious discussion about benefits, > etc., which could make a difference. We don't even > know, for sure, if we have budget for salary, since that > presumably would need to be approved by the Board of > ISOC and/or the hypothetical foundation. > > * We can't make any assurances about how long the job > commitment is good for, because we don't have a > structure to put around it. > > And, with regard to the "contractor" question, there are two > ways of doing "contractor": > > (1) The individual is hired as an independent > contractor, and hence is responsible for his or her own > insurance, benefits, taxes, etc., but is otherwise > essentially an employee. In particular, we select the > individual who is going to be in the role. The problem > with those models is that sometimes the taxing > authorities don't like them and pronounce words that, in > US-speak are "statutory employee". Those are _very_ bad > words; for an explanation contact your friendly attorney > or accountant. > > (2) We hire a company to supply us someone. Problem is > that, at the bottom line, they pick the someone. > > Neither of these are consistent with the level of control which > the IETF leadership (or their spokespeople) think they need. Of > course, that is another unresolved issue. > > Sorry. > > john > > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- admin director (was The other parts of the report… scott bradner
- Re: admin director (was The other parts of the re… Scott W Brim
- Re: admin director (was The other parts of the re… scott bradner
- Re: admin director (was The other parts of the re… John C Klensin
- Re: admin director (was The other parts of the re… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: admin director (was The other parts of the re… John C Klensin
- Re: admin director (was The other parts of the re… Carl Malamud
- Re: admin director (was The other parts of the re… Soininen Jonne (Nokia-NET/Helsinki)
- Re: admin director (was The other parts of the re… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: admin director (was The other parts of the re… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: admin director (was The other parts of the re… Harald Tveit Alvestrand