Re: [GROW] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-grow-large-communities-usage-06

Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> Wed, 19 April 2017 08:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [GROW] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-grow-large-communities-usage-06
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>, Job Snijders <job@instituut.net>
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From: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
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On 19/04/2017 02:06, Randy Bush wrote:
>>> 5.  Security Considerations
>>>
>>>     Operators should note the recommendations in Section 11 of BGP
>>>     Operations and Security [RFC7454].
>>>
>>> SB> You do not address the question of whether there are new
>>> SB> considerations, or considerations that are of increased importance?
>> It is my understanding that RFC 8092 "BGP Large Communities" are just
>> like RFC 1997 "BGP Communities", but ...  larger (for lack of better
>> words). Referencing RFC 7454 seems plenteous.
>>
>> So, what if there are not any additional considerations, If there were,
>> they would've been (or are) covered in RFC 8092's security section,
>> right?
>>
>> This is an Internet-Draft targetted for Informational status, I'm not
>> sure what you expect here.
>>
>>> SB> Is there is text somewhere that discusses the integrity and
>>> SB> synchronization of the parameters and any consequences that arise?
>> the what now? Can you elaborate on the above?
> you're supposed to guess
>
> the normal hack here is
>
>    this document introduces no new security issues beyond those discussed
>    in 1997

Guessing is horrible, but if that is what you do, that is what you do, 
and if the risks are the accepted norm in the BGP
community I am fine.

Is corruption (deliberate or otherwise) of the community strings 
something that BGPsec will address?

- Stewart