Re: An observation on draft-leiba-rfc2119-update-01

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 07 February 2017 19:15 UTC

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Subject: Re: An observation on draft-leiba-rfc2119-update-01
To: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>, Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Date: Wed, 08 Feb 2017 08:15:06 +1300
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On 08/02/2017 04:45, Barry Leiba wrote:
> Hi, Stewart.
> 
>> The above text raises an interesting problem. If the update system works
>> then
>> the text should read [RFC2119]. If the update system does not work than
>> the text needs to be [RFC2119],[RFCxxxx] as shown, but we also need to move
>> to a system where we always list the update set at the time of publication,
> 
> It took me a while to get what you mean here, but I think I have it:
> you're saying that because this document (RFC xxxx) UPDATES RFC 2119,
> *any* document that cites RFC 2119 and is published after this one
> must automatically be taken to refer to this one and must follow the
> terms of this one. 

Huh? If a document refers to RFC2119, it refers to 2119. That might be
a bug in the document, but I don't think we've ever said that updates
propagate by magic in that way. (We have said that the current system
is broken, because implementers have to follow a daisy chain to find out
the latest versions of everything, but that's a different problem.)

Recommending that future documents cite [BCP14] would simplify life.
The RFC Editor knows how to handle that.

   Brian