Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05.txt> (Updated TLS Server Identity Check Procedure for Email Related Protocols) to Proposed Standard
Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Sat, 28 November 2015 15:32 UTC
Return-Path: <alexey.melnikov@isode.com>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA3B1A1AB2 for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 07:32:30 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.586
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.586 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.585, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SeS2pM1KBmst for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 07:32:29 -0800 (PST)
Received: from statler.isode.com (Statler.isode.com [62.232.206.189]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39ACF1A1AAE for <ietf@ietf.org>; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 07:32:29 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1448724748; d=isode.com; s=selector; i=@isode.com; bh=hOnG7ZexDkVKu/wJIVGEQW0zDnXsNmtL/bxwS1rZNuk=; h=From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version: In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description; b=lIjtgFTI168Ys2yiC8z8PTzBL8dRVPAwB7k8SoXBKsj1PxyvzWhio8LFQBMre2su9s3N1H E4w3XOV7+4aVjSrwSNaR5E9xDAG2824EZtm4AMB9+77UplhQbBRZWZUFg59oyLp+7+NTgO ni+rYb17UafPNvpPHX6u6QJ/Hm7cOsQ=;
Received: from [192.168.0.5] (cpc5-nmal20-2-0-cust24.19-2.cable.virginm.net [92.234.84.25]) by statler.isode.com (submission channel) via TCP with ESMTPSA id <VlnJCwAlTqks@statler.isode.com>; Sat, 28 Nov 2015 15:32:28 +0000
Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05.txt> (Updated TLS Server Identity Check Procedure for Email Related Protocols) to Proposed Standard
To: Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it>
References: <20151120142925.18541.72151.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <0C545746-E755-487D-8F0C-BB5981C2C5EE@vigilsec.com> <20151124055141.GD18315@mournblade.imrryr.org> <5658B41E.1050808@tana.it>
From: Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com>
Message-ID: <5659C906.6070402@isode.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 15:32:22 +0000
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0
In-Reply-To: <5658B41E.1050808@tana.it>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/qLB1WYXARIjFSmcEi_ozTJC8GVE>
Cc: ietf@ietf.org
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 15:32:30 -0000
Hi Alessandro, On 27/11/2015 19:50, Alessandro Vesely wrote: > Hi > > On Tue 24/Nov/2015 06:51:41 +0100 Viktor Dukhovni wrote: >> >> Section 3: >> >> 1. For DNS-ID and CN-ID identifier types the client MUST use one or >> more of the following as "reference identifiers": (a) the right >> hand side of the email address, (b) the hostname it used to open >> the connection (without CNAME canonicalization). The client MAY >> also use (c) a value securely derived from (a) or (b), such as >> using "secure" DNSSEC validated lookup. >> >> The problem here is that "the right hand side of the email address" >> is not clearly defined, which email address? It seems that the >> email address in question here is that of the user (performing mail >> submission or accessing his own mailbox). Also I would replace >> "right hand side" with "domain part" (RFC 5322 email addresses are >> <localpart@domainpart>). > > I quickly searched "vanity" in the list archive, to no avail. Section 6 misses > a case where mail.example.net also serves user@example.com. I added another example in section 6. > Some guidance on > how to check/configure vanity domains may be appropriate, IMHO. If you can suggest some specific text, that would be great? Best Regards, Alexey
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… Russ Housley
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… Samir Srivastava
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… Samir Srivastava
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… Samir Srivastava
- SPAM: - Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-… ComKal Networks
- Re: SPAM: - Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-… Samir Srivastava
- Re: SPAM: - Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-… Niels Dettenbach
- Re: SPAM: - Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-… Samir Srivastava
- Re: SPAM: - Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-… Samir Srivastava
- Re: SPAM: - Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-… Samir Srivastava
- Re: SPAM: - Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-… Randy Bush
- Re: SPAM: - Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-… Samir Srivastava
- Re: SPAM: - Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-… Randy Bush
- Re: SPAM: - Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-… Samir Srivastava
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: SPAM: - Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-… Samir Srivastava
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… Mike StJohns
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… John C Klensin
- Re: SPAM: - Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: SPAM: - Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-… Samir Srivastava
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… Leif Johansson
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… Russ Housley
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… stephen.farrell
- Re: [Uta] Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-ce… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Uta] Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-ce… Julien ÉLIE
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… John C Klensin
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Uta] Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-ce… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-uta-email-tls-certs-05… Alessandro Vesely
- UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last Call… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … John Levine
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … Dave Cridland
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … Alexey Melnikov
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … Alexey Melnikov
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … John Levine
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … John Levine
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … John Levine
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … John Levine
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … John C Klensin
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … John R Levine
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … Mark Andrews
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … Joe Hildebrand
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … John R Levine
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … John Levine
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … Alexey Melnikov
- Re: UTA: Server certificate management (Re: Last … Alessandro Vesely