RE: The US Federal Communications Commission just sent theIETF RAI/SIPcommunity an early Christmas present...
"Michel Py" <michel@arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us> Fri, 04 November 2011 02:53 UTC
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> Richard Shockey wrote: > IMHO, they're talking "obligation to interconnect" between > "carriers" as required by actual law. Please forgive a probably naive question; Does this mean that a "carrier" that recently jumped in the voice market (it could be either an ISP now providing VOIP to their customers along with a data bundle that -or- a VOIP-specialized carrier that leverages the IP bandwidth provided to the customer by another ISP) now has some leverage to go to the FCC to "require" (note the quotes) another "carrier" that historically has been in the traditional business of copper/TDM to connect primarily using IP/SIP? There is a good potential of conflict in the appreciation of the "negotiate in good faith" thing, as the carrier with a majority of SIP clients would not want to invest in the TDM hardware to connect, while the carrier with a majority of TDM clients would not want to invest in the SIP gateways. Michel.
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