FW: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers
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From: "Polinsky, Steven" <steven.polinsky@gs.com>
To: "'salo@saloits.com'" <salo@saloits.com>, "'ietf@ietf.org'" <ietf@ietf.org>
Subject: FW: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 17:24:38 -0400
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Dave Clark refers to the IP layer and the TCP layer in RFC817: "The TCP layer, as well as the IP layer, performs a demultiplexing function ...." He also cites: 1] Cohen and Postel, "On Protocol Multiplexing", Sixth Data Communications Symposium, ACM/IEEE, November 1979, Steven Steven M. Polinsky Goldman, Sachs & Co. 180 Maiden Lane New York, NY 10038 212-902-3669 | Fax: 212-493-0107 -----Original Message----- From: Timothy J. Salo [mailto:salo@saloits.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 3:59 PM To: ietf@ietf.org Subject: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Can anyone point me to an early reference describing the Internet protocol layers in IP terms, rather than OSI terms? One recent text used the following terms. However, I don't know whether this description has a long history, or is simply revisionist history. Application Transport (TCP, UDP) Internet (IP, etc.) Network Interface (LAN and WAN technologies). By 1983 the Internet protocols were already being recast in OSI terms. Vint Cerf, in "The DoD Internet Architecture Model", described the following layers: Application Utility Transport Internetwork Network Link Physical In May 1979, Jon Postel in IEN-94 ("Internet Protocol Handbook"; it was small then - 1209 bytes) use the following layers: > Internet Protocol Handbook > Table of Contents > > Gateway Level > Internet Datagram Protocol IEN-80 > Gateway Routing: An Implementation Specification IEN-30 > > Host Level > User Datagram Protocol IEN-88 > Transmission Control Protocol IEN-81 > Multiplexing Protocol IEN-90 > > Application Level > Name Server Protocol IEN-89 > Internet Message Protocol IEN-85 > > Appendices > Protocol Options IEN-92 > Address Mappings IEN-91 > Assigned Numbers IEN-93 Does anyone have a pointer to an early, more "traditional", non-OSI description of the TCP/IP protocol layers? (By the way, I found the concept behind RFC 157, "Invitation to the Second Symposium on Problems in the Optimization of Data Communications Systems", rather interesting. I must admit that I hadn't thought of submitting spam as an RFC.) Thanks, -tjs
- [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Timothy J. Salo
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Radia Perlman - Boston Center for Networking
- FW: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Polinsky, Steven
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Dave Crocker
- Re: Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers mstjohns
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Jim Fleming
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Sean Doran
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Sean Doran
- Re: Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Stephen Casner
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers vint cerf
- Re: Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers vint cerf
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers vint cerf
- Re: Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Jim Fleming
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Mahadevan Iyer
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Keith Moore
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Danny Cohen
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Marshall T. Rose
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers vint cerf
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Keith Moore
- RE: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Brian.Rubarts
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Marshall T. Rose
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Stephen Casner
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Steve Deering
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers J. Noel Chiappa
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Jon Crowcroft
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Owain Vaughan
- RE: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers David R. Oran
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Scott Brim
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Vernon Schryver
- RE: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Christian Huitema
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Mahadevan Iyer
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Keith Moore
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Jon Crowcroft
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Jim Fleming
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Joe Touch
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Joe Touch
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Randy Bush
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Mahadevan Iyer
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Greg Minshall
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Joe Touch
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Randy Bush
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers Bob Braden
- Re: [Hist Trivia] IP Protocol Layers J. Noel Chiappa