Re: A different approach to remote meetings / Mesh videos

Scott Brim <scott.brim@gmail.com> Sun, 13 October 2019 16:38 UTC

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From: Scott Brim <scott.brim@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2019 12:38:15 -0400
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Subject: Re: A different approach to remote meetings / Mesh videos
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There's a reason why "flipped classroom" teaching strategies have taken
off. They allow better use of face-to-face time.

Once upon a time in IntArea WG we set a policy that nothing should be
brought to the physical meeting unless it had been discussed on the list
and we were clear on the issues that needed f2f discussion. It didn't last
long. People like to talk in person.

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