IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: Last Call: <draft-arkko-iesg-crossarea-02.txt> (Experiences from Cross-Area Work at the IETF) to Informational RFC

SM <sm@resistor.net> Sun, 10 February 2013 21:31 UTC

Return-Path: <sm@resistor.net>
X-Original-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5748A21F8BCE for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:31:26 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -102.573
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.573 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.026, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Redu7rG+BHZK for <ietf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:31:25 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mx.ipv6.elandsys.com (mx.ipv6.elandsys.com [IPv6:2001:470:f329:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0B021F8AB1 for <ietf@ietf.org>; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:31:24 -0800 (PST)
Received: from SUBMAN.resistor.net (IDENT:sm@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mx.elandsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r1ALVBSY027412; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:31:14 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=opendkim.org; s=mail2010; t=1360531877; bh=Xbej/H5wSOp6MTf6mEE8bCHIpJfcNpuv0t8+B9chl/E=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=cBfS2nT4978yfp/lJU6y4E6wWn+RvRt2V2z67pFyyG7d3vcnhnHYl/xgMVzQYSo0y K0RKVUNYOxI3UMTeMUicsUv2tw2GF74OAuorXP+Wb479Hg15SAY/cbOTl03CSbZu6M ahwgjVbSbm9THZdpTLpU/99xWpX1xH35o55XzZUw=
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=resistor.net; s=mail; t=1360531877; i=@resistor.net; bh=Xbej/H5wSOp6MTf6mEE8bCHIpJfcNpuv0t8+B9chl/E=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:References; b=n+xin7WEhKrBotk4we2J5y9rXfmIKHayRrb+vC4mikPbKZLWDkumNC8PeSW/8DEMf 3647ivd4swuOnVD3ek6qPznzsENzNYQe6SJNQ3zDCX8FnCGFBpDTkbnPZzTgFMdoXV 6Mo4M4AxguzHxO2lyFFUMMkBe7ducdmZ4IMvarEs=
Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20130210123335.0a1e04f0@resistor.net>
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:11:05 -0800
To: Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net>
From: SM <sm@resistor.net>
Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-arkko-iesg-crossarea-02.txt> (Experiences from Cross-Area Work at the IETF) to Informational RFC
In-Reply-To: <51177D22.3070904@piuha.net>
References: <20130206234933.11375.20586.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20130209090616.0a22ba20@resistor.net> <51177D22.3070904@piuha.net>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
Cc: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>, ietf@ietf.org
X-BeenThere: ietf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF-Discussion <ietf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf>, <mailto:ietf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 21:31:26 -0000

Hi Jari,
At 02:57 10-02-2013, Jari Arkko wrote:
>Admittedly, the document was written from the perspective of the 
>IETF managers (ADs, WG chairs) but comments from you and Brian have 
>led me to understand better that we need to include more about the 
>participant aspect as well.

It's difficult to reconcile the two aspects.  The draft can end up 
being less effective.  I think that it is your individual perspective 
which brings value to the document.

>Normally, yes, but I could imagine topics that are wider than one 
>working group but still within an area.

My opinion is that topics can be wider than one working group and 
they can spill over other areas (cross-area).

Regards,
-sm

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email