Re: DNSCurve vs. DNSSEC - FIGHT! (was OpenDNS today announced it has adopted DNSCurve to secure DNS)

Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> Mon, 01 March 2010 21:14 UTC

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Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:

> Moving to DNSSEC, regardless of the technical model does not eliminate
> the need for certificates or CAs. The purpose of EV certificates is to
> re-establish the principle of accountability.

I don't know what EV means, but anything human, including CA, is not
infallible, which is why PKI is insecure.

Is EV divine?

						Masataka Ohta