Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures?
"TS Glassey" <tglassey@earthlink.net> Fri, 22 August 2008 01:12 UTC
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Subject: Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures?
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IP Folks The fact that there is a IPR process means that there is now an obligation to use it, and so we now need to factor in what it was intended for. To meet this new hurdle my suggestion is that the IP Submission Process now also has a set of statement's with checkboxes added which say something like: "The submitter declares they have reviewed the IPR database and this new submission doesn't violate any of the published IPR notices that the IETF is aware of at the submission time. " As to why, the smartest thing to do is to offload that as a new checkbox on the submission form. Likewise the template for the email submitted material would also want a new declaration added to it as well as a eSign statement to cover all the bases. Todd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Crocker" <dhc2@dcrocker.net> To: "IETF Discussion" <ietf@ietf.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:07 AM Subject: Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? > > > Joel M. Halpern wrote: >> I have to agree with a number of other folks. Patent statements can not >> be removed. It is probably reasonable to have a section for "apparently >> not currently relevant" disclosures. But the disclosures, and the terms >> therein, are still active. This is important for many reasons, including >> confirming what was historically relied on, having available information >> if a working group returns to an item, and other issues. >> >> Adding annotations, and organizing information for simplicity and clarity >> are fine. Removing information is not fine. > > > +1 > > d/ > -- > > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net > _______________________________________________ > Ietf mailing list > Ietf@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- Failing of IPR Filing Page when makling updates i… TS Glassey
- Re: Failing of IPR Filing Page when makling updat… Scott Brim
- RE: Failing of IPR Filing Page when makling updat… Lawrence Rosen
- RE: Failing of IPR Filing Page when makling updat… Dean Anderson
- Re: Failing of IPR Filing Page when makling updat… Harald Alvestrand
- Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Simon Josefsson
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Harald Alvestrand
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Simon Josefsson
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Harald Alvestrand
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Simon Josefsson
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? SM
- Re: Failing of IPR Filing Page when makling updat… Dean Anderson
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? John C Klensin
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Failing of IPR Filing Page when makling updat… Steven M. Bellovin
- Re: Failing of IPR Filing Page when makling updat… Joel Jaeggli
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Simon Josefsson
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Simon Josefsson
- RE: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Bound, Jim
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Marshall Eubanks
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Simon Josefsson
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Marshall Eubanks
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Bill Fenner
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Scott Kitterman
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Simon Josefsson
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? SM
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Stephan Wenger
- RE: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Eric Gray
- RE: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Powers Chuck-RXCP20
- RE: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? John C Klensin
- RE: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Eric Gray
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Scott Brim
- RE: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? John C Klensin
- RE: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? John C Klensin
- RE: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Powers Chuck-RXCP20
- RE: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Eric Gray
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Stephan Wenger
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Dean Anderson
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? John C Klensin
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Marshall Eubanks
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Simon Josefsson
- RE: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Powers Chuck-RXCP20
- authorizing subsequent use of contributions Simon Josefsson
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Simon Josefsson
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Simon Josefsson
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Spencer Dawkins
- RE: authorizing subsequent use of contributions Powers Chuck-RXCP20
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Ted Hardie
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Ted Hardie
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? John C Klensin
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Paul Hoffman
- Re: authorizing subsequent use of contributions John C Klensin
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? John C Klensin
- RE: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Powers Chuck-RXCP20
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Paul Hoffman
- RE: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Paul Hoffman
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Simon Josefsson
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Simon Josefsson
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Simon Josefsson
- Removal of nonsensical IETF patent disclosures Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Paul Hoffman
- Re: authorizing subsequent use of contributions Simon Josefsson
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Ted Hardie
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? TS Glassey
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Simon Josefsson
- RE: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Dean Anderson
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Stephan Wenger
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Simon Josefsson
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Joel M. Halpern
- RE: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Powers Chuck-RXCP20
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Simon Josefsson
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Dave Crocker
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? TS Glassey
- Re: Removal of IETF patent disclosures? Brian E Carpenter
- Re: authorizing subsequent use of contributions Brian E Carpenter
- Re: authorizing subsequent use of contributions Simon Josefsson
- Re: authorizing subsequent use of contributions Brian E Carpenter
- Re: authorizing subsequent use of contributions Simon Josefsson
- RE: authorizing subsequent use of contributions Powers Chuck-RXCP20