Re: The first issue (was : A sort of council of elders for the internet)
Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it> Fri, 15 November 2013 12:01 UTC
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On Thu 14/Nov/2013 19:54:06 +0100 Brian E Carpenter wrote: > On 15/11/2013 03:20, Moriarty, Kathleen wrote: > ... >> I don't think it's the IETF's place to provide a policy back to >> companies on who to send or how many people can attend. This is >> a financial decision for many companies. The cost of the trip >> itself isn't the issue, but the person's time for the week may >> be. > > I completely agree. On the other hand, we could have a prominent > "equal opportunity" statement that would remind everybody, including > employers, that we want diversity among our participants. (And think > what fun we could have wordsmithing such a statement.) Me too. If improperly worded, Vegas-like ladies admission policies might carry the risk of inadvertently putting in some "What Happens Here Stays Here" slogan as well ;-) The other issue, involving small businesses, probably needs something more substantial than a policy. For a small business, the cost of the trip can be weighty in and of itself, let alone the person's time, e.g. [1]. Arrangements such as tax breaks or public subsidies are out of IETF reach, AFAIK. Could ISOC help here, maybe? Ale [1] Things that need discussion face to face? http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/spfbis/current/msg01789.html
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet SM
- A sort of council of elders for the internet SM
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Yoav Nir
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Tim Bray
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Gordon Lennox
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- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Ofer Inbar
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Yoav Nir
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Andrew G. Malis
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Ted Lemon
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Brian Carpenter
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Arturo Servin
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Brian E Carpenter
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet John Levine
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Josh Howlett
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Yoav Nir
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Abdussalam Baryun
- RE: A sort of council of elders for the internet l.wood
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Bert Wijnen (IETF)
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Jorge Amodio
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Andrew G. Malis
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Jari Arkko
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Melinda Shore
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Michael Richardson
- RE: A sort of council of elders for the internet SM
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Ted Lemon
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Melinda Shore
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Ted Lemon
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Melinda Shore
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Ted Lemon
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Dave Crocker
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- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet manning bill
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Melinda Shore
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Ted Lemon
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet John Levine
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet SM
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Ted Lemon
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet SM
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Moriarty, Kathleen
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Moriarty, Kathleen
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Randy Bush
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Dave Crocker
- RE: A sort of council of elders for the internet Adrian Farrel
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Vinayak Hegde
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Vinayak Hegde
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Suresh Krishnan
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Jari Arkko
- Re: A sort of council of elders for the internet Alessandro Vesely
- The first issue (was : A sort of council of elder… SM
- Re: The first issue (was : A sort of council of e… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: The first issue (was : A sort of council of e… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: The first issue (was : A sort of council of e… SM
- Re: The first issue (was : A sort of council of e… Andrew Feren
- Re: The first issue (was : A sort of council of e… Alessandro Vesely
- RE: The first issue (was : A sort of council of e… Moriarty, Kathleen
- Re: The first issue (was : A sort of council of e… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: The first issue (was : A sort of council of e… Alessandro Vesely