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Re: Yang update from IESG ?

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Mon, 18 November 2019 13:26 UTC

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To: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>, "iesg@ietf.org" <iesg@ietf.org>, ietf@ietf.org, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
Subject: Re: Yang update from IESG ?
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Comments: In-reply-to Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> message dated "Mon, 18 Nov 2019 01:10:48 -0500."
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Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
    >>> During a plenary at the last or second last IETF, I raised an issue
    >>> about people stuffing incomplete and obsolete/deprecated partial IANA
    >>> registiries in yang drafts/RFCs. The IESG confirmed this as a problem
    >>> to me and one of the IESG members said they were aware and would get
    >>> back on this.
    >>> 
    >>> I have not heard anything. The issue is still a problem. Originally,
    >>> this came up in i2nsf/ipsecme, and has now resurfaced for me in
    >>> dnsop.

    >> The IESG talked about this issue during the last IETF meeting.  See
    >> attached.
    >> 
    >> The outcome of this discussion was that there is no single "right
    >> answer" and individual ADs should intervene on specific instances as
    >> appropriate.

    > Thanks for the answer. Unfortunately, it is not much of guidance and
    > does not really address the issue I raised, namely that we are putting
    > snapshots of IANA registries in RFC documents. One of your three Design
    > Patterns still does this.

I also am unhappy with this situation.

As far as I can tell it means that IANA will be maintaining YANG modules.
I don't understand how this is going to work for real products.

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