Re: [Ila] [5gangip] plans for future work on Id-Loc split for 5G

[Behcet Sarikaya <[e-mail]>]

Hi Tom, all,

As Dirk mentioned, we are looking for problem statement, requirements,
framework, type of documents not tied to one specific
ID-Loc system.


On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Tom Herbert <[e-mail]> wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Behcet Sarikaya
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 3:37 AM, <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> After some good discussion here on the list and some initial contact
> with
> >> IAB, we think it could be worth to spend more thoughts on the ID-Loc
> split
> >> topic of a mapping system providing end-to-end privacy of both
> Identities
> >> and Location of peers. The use cases are 5G related route optimization
> for
> >> changing (mobile) points of attachment of both end terminals (UE) and
> >> network function services (e.g. UPF) …
> >>
> >> Focus should be on concrete approaches which can be prototyped instead
> of
> >> pure theoretical (academic) discussions
> >>
> >> We think the work needs a problem statement draft, a comprehensive list
> of
> >> requirements, and a framework document showing the environment where the
> >> solution would fit in (w/o yet a complete solution space analysis) … in
> that
> >> priority.
> >>
> >> We solicit for a discussion on the list before we meet in London.
> >>
> >> In London, IETF 101, we plan on organizing a side-meeting where we could
> >> have a set of stimulating presentations.
> >>
> >> Topics we can imagine currently are
> >>
> >> - 5G lab trials.
> >>
> >> - Any initial work on the first deployment experience which potentially
> >> underline the identified problem.
> >
> >
> > Tom Herbert had a draft
> >
> > https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-herbert-idlocd-00.txt
> >
> > This draft could be relevant, let's discuss it.
> >
> We have pushed an initial implementation to git-hub as open source.
> This is in github.com/quantonium/ila. The starting point to work with
> this is https://github.com/quantonium/ila/blob/master/README.install.
>
> This implements ilad as an ILA control daemon following the design of
> the idloc draft. The current version implements a mapping system
> database using Redis and ILA routers. The forwarding cache and ILA
> mapping protocol (ILAMP
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-herbert-ila-ilamp-00) are TBD. For
> populating the cache, ILAMP proposes to use secure redirects which are
> something of a hybrid of the push and pull models described in the
> idlocd draft.
>
> The repository includes tests to emulate a RAN network in a box and
> show seamless device mobility. We are currently working on bringing
> this us in real radio network. We can do a demo of ilad at a 5GangIP
> side meeting. If you're interested in developing and working on ilad,
> please let me know!
>
>
Let's discuss this specific approach and others from the point of view of
developing the documents we need

Regards,
Behcet

> Tom
>