Re: [Ila] Second round draft charter

[Alexandre Petrescu <[e-mail]>]

Le 15/02/2018 à 18:27, Tom Herbert a écrit :
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 4:39 AM, Alexandre Petrescu
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Le 09/02/2018 à 02:28, Uma Chunduri a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hi Tom,
>>>
>>> Below draft looks fine as a starting point.
>>>
>>> Few comments in-line [Uma]:
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Uma C.
>>>
>>> *From:*ila [mailto:[e-mail]] *On Behalf Of *Tom Herbert
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 08, 2018 4:04 PM
>>> *To:* [e-mail]; Bogineni, Kalyani
>>> <[e-mail]>
>>> *Subject:* [Ila] Second round draft charter
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I Incorporated feedback from the first draft including replacing
>>> "translation" with "transformation". Aldo, incorporated some of the language
>>> from the BOF description.
>>>
>>> Please comment!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>> ------
>>>
>>> Identifier-Locator Addressing (ILA) is a protocol to implement transparent
>>> network overlays without encapsulation. It addresses the need for network
>>> overlays in virtualization and mobility that are efficient, lightweight,
>>> performant, scalable, secure, provide seamless mobility, leverage and
>>> encourage use of IPv6, provide strong privacy, are interoperable with
>>> existing infrastructure, applicable to a variety of use cases, and have
>>> simplified control and management.
>>>
>>> The use cases of ILA include mobile networks, datacenter virtualization,
>>> and network virtualization.
>>>
>>> *[Uma]: Can you expand mobile networks term here. I hope you meant,
>>> cellular and wi-fi networks or anything else?
>>
>>
>> Side-note, at IETF a 'Mobile Network' is a network that moves, per RFC3753:
>>
>>>     Mobile network
>>>
>>>        An entire network, moving as a unit, which dynamically changes its
>>>        point of attachment to the Internet and thus its reachability in
>>>        the topology.  The mobile network is composed of one or more IP-
>>>        subnets and is connected to the global Internet via one or more
>>>        Mobile Routers (MR).  The internal configuration of the mobile
>>>        network is assumed to be relatively stable with respect to the MR.
>>
>>
>> For example, such a mobile network is what a user generates when s/he
>> tethers a smartphone ('tethering').
>>
>> On another hand, a 'mobile network' is what many people call in current
>> conversation, including IETF WG email lists like v6ops, a 'cellular
>> network'.
>>
>> This discrepancy exist there for many years.  It seems to me more and more
>> people tend to ignore that RFC terminology.
>>
>> It deserves clarification, but maybe not in this Charter proposal.
>>
> Alex,
> 
> Thanks for the pointer. It would seem that use of "mobile networks" in
> the charter is not correct. Maybe this should be "device mobility" or
> "mobile networking". This needs to capture the use case where it is
> physical devices that are mobile, as opposed to virtual hosts moving
> in network virtualization.

I think 'mobile networking' is a good term for that.

As a side note, a private conversation about another matter, elightened 
me further on the term "Mobile Network"; it was used as early as 1993 in 
this context: "The techniques of encapsulation or source routing can be 
both used to deliver packets from the Mobile Network to wherever the 
particular Mobile Host is currently located." in a document that 
reflects perspective of IETF at that time.

Contrary to RFC 3753, the term 'Mobile Network' was used differently 
even at IETF.

Alex

> 
> Tom
> 
>> That's why it's a side-note.
>>
>> Alex
>> [...]
>>
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