Re: [EAI] EAI WG status and rechartering

"Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Mon, 23 November 2009 09:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: [EAI] EAI WG status and rechartering
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Hello Alexey,


On 2009/11/21 3:08, Alexey Melnikov wrote:

> If the WG has enough energy to recharter, I would also like to ask the
> WG to take mailto: URI scheme update (draft-duerst-mailto-bis) as an
> additional deliverable.

I'm not sure this makes sense, for two reasons:

- While draft-duerst-mailto-bis is very much about internationalization
   (it allows non-ASCII characters in things such as Subject and body,
    which the current RFC doesn't), it isn't actually about EAI

- The draft has already been out for quite a long time, it doesn't seem
   to make sense to wait for other EAI drafts to complete and then the
   WG to recharter to move on.

That said, it would be possible (I'd even say appropriate) for a 
rechartered WG to take up the job of either further updating what might 
by that time be the RFC resulting from draft-duerst-mailto-bis 
(essentially continuing what was 
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-eai-mailto-01) or of creating a 
new URI/IRI scheme for EAI mail addresses. [I'd be glad to volunteer as 
an editor in either case.]

Also, it's never too late for anybody in this WG to have a look at 
draft-duerst-mailto-bis (currently at 
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-duerst-mailto-bis-07) Any kinds of 
reviews are appropriate, but with respect to WG matters, I'd want in 
particular to point out the following two items (not EAI per se, but 
definitely related) in Section 2, "Syntax of a 'mailto' URI":

    4.  Percent-encoding can be used in the <domain> part of an <addr-
        spec>, in order to denote an internationalized domain name.  The
        considerations for <reg-name> in [STD66] apply.  In particular,
        non-ASCII characters MUST first be encoded according to UTF-8
        [STD63], and then each octet of the corresponding UTF-8 sequence
        MUST be percent-encoded to be represented as URI characters.  URI
        producing applications MUST NOT use percent-encoding in domain
        names unless it is used to represent a UTF-8 character sequence.
        When the internationalized domain name is used to compose a
        message, the name MUST be transformed to the IDNA encoding where
        appropriate [RFC3490].  URI producers SHOULD provide these domain
        names in the IDNA encoding, rather than percent-encoded, if they
        wish to maximize interoperability with legacy 'mailto' URI
        interpreters.

    5.  Percent-encoding of non-ASCII octets in the <local-part> of an
        <addr-spec> is reserved for the internationalization of the
        <local-part>.  Non-ASCII characters MUST first be encoded
        according to UTF-8 [STD63], and then each octet of the
        corresponding UTF-8 sequence MUST be percent-encoded to be
        represented as URI characters.  Any other percent-encoding of
        non-ASCII characters is prohibited.  When a <local-part>
        containing non-ASCII characters will be used to compose a
        message, the <local-part> MUST be transformed to conform to
        whatever encoding may be defined in a future specification for
        the internationalization of email addresses.


Regards,   Martin.

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