Re: [EAI] Rather serious bug in RFC 6531
John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Mon, 04 January 2021 17:32 UTC
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Subject: Re: [EAI] Rather serious bug in RFC 6531
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In article <f8ef03e7-59da-9753-9dad-4dc992b046eb@isode.com> you write: >My personal opinion is that the likelyhood of older versions being >implemented is low and my desire to minimize number of different WITH >keywords is high, so I think the decision in RFC 6531 not to change >keywords is the right one. Having just done some EAI compliance tests for the UASG, I can report that all the systems that have any EAI support at all do what the RFC says. The SMTP keyword is SMTPUTF8, and the WITH clause is UTF8SMTP. (Well, except for Microsoft whose WITH clauses are wrong with or without EAI.) At this point I am not aware of any live implmentations of the experimental version other than in IMAP at Coremail, and that one is sufficiently broken that I doubt anyone is using it. I agree we should leave it alone. R's, John
- [EAI] Rather serious bug in RFC 6531 John C Klensin
- Re: [EAI] Rather serious bug in RFC 6531 Jiankang Yao
- Re: [EAI] Rather serious bug in RFC 6531 Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [EAI] Rather serious bug in RFC 6531 John Levine
- Re: [EAI] Rather serious bug in RFC 6531 John C Klensin
- Re: [EAI] Rather serious bug in RFC 6531 John Levine
- Re: [EAI] Rather serious bug in RFC 6531 John C Klensin
- Re: [EAI] Rather serious bug in RFC 6531 John R Levine
- Re: [EAI] Rather serious bug in RFC 6531 ned+ima