Re: draft-ietf-imapext-thread
Cyrus Daboo <daboo@cyrusoft.com> Wed, 13 June 2001 14:46 UTC
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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:48:47 -0400
From: Cyrus Daboo <daboo@cyrusoft.com>
To: Arnt Gulbrandsen <arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no>, Ken Murchison <ken@oceana.com>
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Subject: Re: draft-ietf-imapext-thread
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--On Wednesday, June 13, 2001 03:50:07 PM +0200 Arnt Gulbrandsen <arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no> wrote: >> It can't because the unseen search takes place BEFORE the threading. > > The answer sounds like putting the cart before the horse... _why_ does > the search take place before threading? You need to think about this as two different actions (I've actually written some of this up in the ficticious WINDOW draft which I hope to get out soon): There are two types of 'windowing' mode: input windowing and output windowing. Input windowing restricts the set of messages that a command acts upon. In the case of the SORT and THREAD commands, this is controlled via the search parameters that they take. In the case of the SEARCH command, input windoing can be accomplished by using sequence/uid ranges in the search criteria. Other commands that accept sequence/uid ranges effectively do input windowing too (e.g. FETCH). Also, the LIST command provides a way to do input windowing by using * or % wildcards to match ranges of mailbox names. Output windowing means taking the results of a command and sub-setting/filtering those in some way. Neither SORT nor THREAD do this - you get the full range of inputs in the output. This is different than input windowing because it is applied after the command has run and acts on the results (and the order of the results in the case of SORT and THREAD). The LIST command too could benefit from output windowing that would lket clients get ranges of matching mailboxes rather than the whole lot. SEARCH is somewhat of a special case as input and output windowing are effectively the same. THREAD is also complicated to do output windowing on because of the nature of the hierarchical data it outputs. -- Cyrus Daboo
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- Re: draft-ietf-imapext-thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
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