Re: [Int-area] Re: Discovering a Location Server in the Access Network
Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> Fri, 21 September 2007 18:18 UTC
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Hi, Hannes, I appreciate the idea of a 'ping' to the group. I also appreciate that everyone has their area of focus, and not all things brought to a WG receive the attention that's needed to move them forward. IETFers have discussed incentive systems to encourage people to read things that 'need to be reviewed', but let's not discuss that here. Until we have that or an alternative - in the absence of positive feedback - items should not move forward in a WG based on silence as implicit approval. If there is an absence of positive community support - either explicit, or implicit by the community's lack of interest and silence - IMO, the best path forward is to *revert* an item to individual submission, even if it's on the WG charter. Joe Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > My mail was a new (and different) attempt to receive some feedback. > So far, didn't work. Just bad luck. > > Ciao > Hannes > > Joe Touch wrote: >> Hannes Tschofenig wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I haven't received concerns regarding the suggested discovery approach. >>> May I assume from the lack of feedback that the suggested approach is >>> reasonable? >>> >> >> I have seen this sort of conclusion claimed before, and it is incorrect. >> >> Silence is not a hum in favor. >> >> I don't have a position on this per se, but if nobody can step forward >> and claim this is a reasonable solution, all we have is 'lack of >> feedback', not 'consensus'. >> >> Joe >> >> ... >> >>>> In short, the current proposal (see >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thomson-geopriv-lis-discovery-02.txt; >>>> ignoring Section 2 which defines the DHCP portion) essentially does >>>> the following: >>>> >>>> * Discover the public IP address of the end point >>>> * Perform a reverse DNS lookup to learn the domain >>>> * Lookup the LIS for that domain >>>> * Contact the LIS >>>> >> >> -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Touch Sr. Network Engineer, USAF TSAT Space Segment Postel Center Director & Research Assoc. Prof., USC/ISI
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- [Int-area] Discovering a Location Server in the A… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Int-area] Discovering a Location Server in t… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Int-area] Discovering a Location Server in t… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Int-area] Discovering a Location Server in t… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Int-area] Discovering a Location Server in t… Yangwoo Ko
- Re: [Int-area] Discovering a Location Server in t… Hannes Tschofenig
- [Int-area] Re: Discovering a Location Server in t… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Int-area] Re: Discovering a Location Server … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Re: Discovering a Location Server … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Int-area] Re: Discovering a Location Server … Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Int-area] Re: Discovering a Location Server … Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] Re: Discovering a Location Server … Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Int-area] Re: Discovering a Location Server … Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Int-area] Discovering a Location Server in t… Pekka Savola
- Re: [Int-area] Discovering a Location Server in t… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Int-area] Re: Discovering a Location Server … Iljitsch van Beijnum