Re: [Int-area] [5gangip] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ipv6-prefix-address-privacy-00.txt

Tom Herbert <tom@quantonium.net> Wed, 21 February 2018 06:32 UTC

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From: Tom Herbert <tom@quantonium.net>
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Subject: Re: [Int-area] [5gangip] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ipv6-prefix-address-privacy-00.txt
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Jon,

Thanks for the reference. I think that both spatial and temporal
characteristics should be part of strong privacy addresses. Will update the
draft to mention those.

One thing that I'm not sure how to quantify yet is the effects of using
addresses for narrow purposes like a single flow. For instance, if a packet
is seen with some address that might not be useful as a target of attack by
trying to connect to the address. No application would be listening on such
addresses (although this does make ICMP interesting, like whether there
should be a response to echo request).

Tom


On Feb 20, 2018 2:06 AM, "Jon Crowcroft" <jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:

people may already have read this (and its a while back) but interesting to
see the limited but non zero use of privacy v6 addr
https://www.akamai.com/uk/en/multimedia/documents/technical-publication/
temporal-and-spatial-classification-of-active-ipv6-addresses-technical-
publication.pdf

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 7:15 PM, Tom Herbert <tom@quantonium.net> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> This draft discusses issue of privacy in IPv6 network prefix
> assignment. Specifically the privacy problems of an assigned network
> prefix becoming a persistent identifier for devices (e.g. /64
> assignment to devices in mobile networks).  The use of
> identifier/locator split is suggested as a solution.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
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> draft-herbert-ipv6-prefix-address-privacy-00.txt
> To: Tom Herbert <tom@quantonium.net>
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> A new version of I-D, draft-herbert-ipv6-prefix-address-privacy-00.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Tom Herbert and posted to the
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> Name:           draft-herbert-ipv6-prefix-address-privacy
> Revision:       00
> Title:          Privacy in IPv6 Network Prefix Assignment
> Document date:  2018-02-20
> Group:          Individual Submission
> Pages:          17
> URL:
> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-herbert-ipv6-pref
> ix-address-privacy-00.txt
> Status:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-herbert-ipv6-prefix-a
> ddress-privacy/
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> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-herbert-ipv6-prefix-address-privacy-00
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> fix-address-privacy-00
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>
> Abstract:
>    This document discusses privacy concerns around network prefix
>    assignment in IPv6. It evaluates the privacy threat, proposes a set
>    of ideal criteria for strong privacy, and suggests solutions to
>    achieve a high degree of privacy in addressing.
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