Re: [Int-area] intarea charter
marcelo bagnulo braun <marcelo@it.uc3m.es> Thu, 01 October 2009 10:55 UTC
Return-Path: <marcelo@it.uc3m.es>
X-Original-To: int-area@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: int-area@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E003A67DD for <int-area@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 03:55:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -6.517
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.517 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.082, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jZ76i8nRTPtU for <int-area@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 03:55:44 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from smtp03.uc3m.es (smtp03.uc3m.es [163.117.176.133]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AE13A6897 for <int-area@ietf.org>; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 03:55:43 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from marcelo-bagnulos-macbook-pro.local (wlap005.it.uc3m.es [163.117.139.108]) by smtp03.uc3m.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3723C731DA3; Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:57:07 +0200 (CEST)
Message-ID: <4AC48B03.6090009@it.uc3m.es>
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:57:07 +0200
From: marcelo bagnulo braun <marcelo@it.uc3m.es>
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net>
References: <4AC386A9.5040203@piuha.net> <4AC44498.4000206@it.uc3m.es> <4AC483D5.9060407@piuha.net>
In-Reply-To: <4AC483D5.9060407@piuha.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.0.0.3116-5.6.0.1016-16920.003
Cc: Internet Area <int-area@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Int-area] intarea charter
X-BeenThere: int-area@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF Internet Area Mailing List <int-area.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area>, <mailto:int-area-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/int-area>
List-Post: <mailto:int-area@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:int-area-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area>, <mailto:int-area-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:55:45 -0000
Jari Arkko escribió: > Marcelo, > >> My main concern is that since by definition, the scope is loosely >> defined, we may end up collecting documents that have little interest >> (i.e. there were not enough interest to form a WG for instance, as >> opposed to what i understand the goal is, to work on documents that >> there is interest but don't have a clear home). >> >> So, i think having a WG is fine, but it is very important to properly >> measure the interest on working on each document adopted, since we >> may end up having a collection of one man efforts in this context. > > I fully agree that the group should only work on topics that do have > general interest. We intend to be strict about adopting work. I also > believe that we've been historically strict; here are the documents > that I can recall we handled over the last four years: RFC 4727 (IANA > experimental values for IP), RFC 4843 (IPv6 KHIs), RFC 4884 (extended > ICMPs), RFC 5227 (IPv4 DAD), RFC 5350 (router alert IANA rules), > draft-atlas-icmp-unnumbered, draft-touch-intarea-tunnels, > draft-touch-ipv4-unique-id and I don't quite remember where RFCs 4581 > and 4982 (bug fixes to SEND specifications) were developed, but there > was some discussion on our list at least. > > This group is definitely not the place to adopt work that, e.g., > failed to gain support elsewhere or is just something that one > individual wants to do. I will add some words to the charter to make > this clearer. Right, In some WGs, the chairs require a number (5 for instance) of thorough reviews from non-authors to accept a WG document, which should reflect that at least 5 people care about this in a serious way. Of course, in a normal WG, there si already consensus that the work is needed cause that was part of the charter discussion, so since in this case, and the 5 reviews are needed to verify the quality of the document. In this case, since the charter is opne, you would have both questiosn raised at the same time i.e. whehter we care about the topic and whehter the particular document is the right one, so probably the bar should be even higher. Regards, marcelo > > In short, just because we intend to formalize the existence of the WG, > it does not follow that we will take on large numbers of drafts in the > program. The group has a dual nature. But it is first and foremost a > discussion forum for area-wide topics, not an RFC publication venue > for new things even if publish a document now and then. > > Jari > >
- [Int-area] intarea charter Jari Arkko
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Joe Touch
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Jari Arkko
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Laganier, Julien
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Stewart Bryant
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Sri Gundavelli
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter David Harrington
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Wassim Haddad
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Jari Arkko
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Luigi Iannone
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Jari Arkko
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Jari Arkko
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Ralph Droms
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Ahmad Muhanna
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Laganier, Julien
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Scott Brim
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Jari Arkko
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Ahmad Muhanna
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Jari Arkko
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Ahmad Muhanna
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Suresh Krishnan
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Scott Brim
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Wassim Haddad
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Laganier, Julien
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Ahmad Muhanna
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Laganier, Julien
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Ahmad Muhanna
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Wassim Haddad
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Ahmad Muhanna
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Mark Townsley
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter David Harrington
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Templin, Fred L
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Jari Arkko
- Re: [Int-area] intarea charter Jari Arkko