Re: [Int-area] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-fenner-iana-exp-2780-01.txt

Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com> Thu, 12 January 2006 15:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Int-area] Re: I-D ACTION:draft-fenner-iana-exp-2780-01.txt
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Brian E Carpenter wrote:

> Some personal comments on this.
>
> I'm in favour of making these assignments. I think they will allow
> innovation and deflect some of the pressure for assignments for
> essentially private use.
>
> I'd actually question whether we shouldn't state explicitly that
> it's OK to use these values in production in a private network.

I think that might be dangerous - sooner or later someone is going
to willfully disregard 3692.

There needed to be 3692 warnings in both this draft and right
next to the entries in the IANA registry.

There may be a good case for recommending that firewalls and
NAT default to dumping these packets.

- Stewart


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