[Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Internet Architecture" draft-ietf-intarea-tunnels
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I think Jon Postel, Bob Braden and many other Internet founders would have approved. Fred From: touch@strayalpha.com <touch@strayalpha.com> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2025 10:22 AM To: Templin (US), Fred L <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> Cc: sarikaya@ieee.org; Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>; Juan Carlos Zuniga (juzuniga) <juzuniga@cisco.com>; Internet Area <int-area@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [Int-area] WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Internet Architecture" draft-ietf-intarea-tunnels Per the Madrid recorded presentation: Requested by the IESG, March 2007 * First version draft-touch July 2007 * Discussions begin… INTAREA adoption July 2010 * Significant revision 2015, with figures and revised terminology * Another significant revision 2016, with more figures and expanded terminology Largely complete by 2018 * Then a hiatus due to job shift — Dr. Joe Touch, temporal epistemologist www.strayalpha.com<http://www.strayalpha.com> On Aug 8, 2025, at 10:08 AM, Templin (US), Fred L <Fred.L.Templin=40boeing.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:Fred.L.Templin=40boeing.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: >> Unfortunately it has been (probably unnecessarily ) delayed for a long time. It looks like this document became an intarea WG item in March 2010; maybe it was ahead of its time, and the time has now arrived. Fred From: Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com<mailto:sarikaya2012@gmail.com>> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2025 9:26 AM To: Ron Bonica <rbonica=40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:rbonica=40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org>> Cc: Juan Carlos Zuniga (juzuniga) <juzuniga=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:juzuniga=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>>; Internet Area <int-area@ietf.org<mailto:int-area@ietf.org>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Internet Architecture" draft-ietf-intarea-tunnels EXT email: be mindful of links/attachments. On Thu, Aug 7, 2025 at 1:31 PM Ron Bonica <rbonica=40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: Folks, This is an excellent overview of tunnel technology. However, I wonder if the publication of this draft will change anyone's behavior. If not, I wonder if the IETF stream is the right place for this document. Maybe the independent stream is more appropriate? Maybe the Internet Protocol Journal or a blog? Maybe even a chapter in a textbook? I think it should be published as an RFC as It has originally been intended to. Unfortunately it has been (probably unnecessarily ) delayed for a long time. Behcet Ron Juniper Business Use Only ________________________________ From: Juan Carlos Zuniga (juzuniga) <juzuniga=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> Sent: Wednesday, August 6, 2025 1:41 AM To: Internet Area <int-area@ietf.org<mailto:int-area@ietf.org>> Subject: [Int-area] WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Internet Architecture" draft-ietf-intarea-tunnels [External Email. Be cautious of content] Dear IntArea WG, The authors of Draft https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-intarea-tunnels-15<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-intarea-tunnels-15__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!AST0foNqNIWijq2ReXb3w8D4mUd3Sx53MI5Quv7oqyWSY5IiiLSevttp23VbJW6DPwYlIGVUjeYKV6KJK2lGv0LA3FpSqC0$> are requesting a WGLC. The latest draft was presented at IETF 123 and we heard some comments from the floor. Hence, we are starting now a 2-week WG Last Call. We would like to receive at least 5 substantial reviews to move forward. Please express your support/comments by replying to this email. To compensate for the summer break, the call will end on Friday the 22nd of August (AoE). Thanks, Juan-Carlos & Wassim (IntArea WG chairs) _______________________________________________ Int-area mailing list -- int-area@ietf.org<mailto:int-area@ietf.org> To unsubscribe send an email to int-area-leave@ietf.org<mailto:int-area-leave@ietf.org> _______________________________________________ Int-area mailing list -- int-area@ietf.org<mailto:int-area@ietf.org> To unsubscribe send an email to int-area-leave@ietf.org<mailto:int-area-leave@ietf.org>
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- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Intern… Ron Bonica
- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Intern… Behcet Sarikaya
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- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Intern… Templin (US), Fred L
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- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "PROBE: A Utility for Pro… Tal Mizrahi
- [Int-area] 回复:Re: WGLC for "PROBE: A Utility for … Xiaoming He
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- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Intern… Geoff Huston
- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Intern… Ron Bonica
- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Intern… Templin (US), Fred L
- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Intern… Ron Bonica
- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Intern… Templin (US), Fred L
- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Intern… Paul Vixie
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- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Intern… Robert Moskowitz
- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Intern… Ole Troan
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- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Intern… Templin (US), Fred L
- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Intern… Ole Trøan
- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Intern… Templin (US), Fred L
- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Intern… Templin (US), Fred L
- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Intern… Templin (US), Fred L
- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Intern… Christian Huitema
- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "IP Tunnels in the Intern… Juan Carlos Zuniga (juzuniga)
- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "PROBE: A Utility for Pro… Bill Fenner
- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "PROBE: A Utility for Pro… Juan Carlos Zuniga (juzuniga)
- [Int-area] Re: WGLC for "PROBE: A Utility for Pro… Juan Carlos Zuniga (juzuniga)
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