Re: [Int-dir] Intdir telechat review of draft-ietf-anima-asa-guidelines-05

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sat, 22 January 2022 22:29 UTC

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To: Benno Overeinder <benno@NLnetLabs.nl>, int-dir@ietf.org
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Int-dir] Intdir telechat review of draft-ietf-anima-asa-guidelines-05
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Thanks Benno, we'll pick up these points in the next version.

Regards
    Brian Carpenter

On 22-Jan-22 07:46, Benno Overeinder via Datatracker wrote:
> Reviewer: Benno Overeinder
> Review result: Ready with Nits
> 
> Intdir Review draft-ietf-anima-asa-guidelines-05
> 
> I am an assigned INT directorate reviewer for
> draft-ietf-anima-asa-guidelines-05.  These comments were written
> primarily for the benefit of the Internet Area Directors.  Document
> editors and shepherd(s) should treat these comments just like they would
> treat comments from any other IETF contributors and resolve them along
> with any other Last Call comments that have been received.  For more
> details on the INT Directorate, see
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/intdir/about/.
> 
> The document is intended as a document with an "Informational" status
> and proposes guidelines for the design of Autonomic Service Agents for
> autonomous networks.  It is complementary to the documents describing
> the Autonomous Network Infrastructure described in RFC 8993 (and other
> related RFCs 8990 and 8994).  The guidelines assist in the design and
> implementation of ASAs by describing the life cycle and behaviour
> (methods) in the different phases required to work correctly in the ANI.
> 
> Overall, I find the document well written and understandable.  It seems
> very thorough and well structured.  And while the document references
> related RFCs and provides further information, it is perfectly legible
> as a standalone document.
> 
> The document discusses functions to be implemented or be in place, but
> sometimes also discusses detailed implementation suggestions such as
> (increasing) multiple threads, queues, and locks.  In this perspective,
> it is not only about guidelines in the design of ASA, but also about the
> implementation.  These lower level implementation guidelines only appear
> in some places and do not interfere with the focus or understanding of
> the document.
> 
> Small nit, the following sentence is not entirely clear to me (Section
> 5, last paragraph): It is expected that the value field of many
> objectives will be extended in service, to add additional information.
> 
> The robustness principle (Section 8) is important for building trust in
> autonomous systems.  Together with Section 9, Security Considerations,
> these are not afterthoughts, but essential sections on requirements and
> considerations for the design of ASAs.  Perhaps the authors could also
> mention (reference) this earlier in the document, e.g. in the
> Introduction section.
> 
> 
> 
>