Re: [IPFIX] Full or Truncated EHs RE: Some comments on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-tcpo-v6eh

"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com> Tue, 10 October 2023 14:08 UTC

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: "mohamed.boucadair@orange.com" <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>, "opsawg@ietf.org" <opsawg@ietf.org>
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Thread-Topic: Full or Truncated EHs RE: Some comments on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-tcpo-v6eh
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Hello Med,

Adding a new IE to signal the issue, why not ? I usually do not like too much having a ‘negative signalling’, i.e., the absence of an IE having an important meaning. But, up to the authors & WG to decide of course

Regards

-éric



From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>
Date: Monday, 9 October 2023 at 14:10
To: Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke@cisco.com>, opsawg@ietf.org <opsawg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Full or Truncated EHs RE: Some comments on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-tcpo-v6eh
Hi Éric,

“There should be a way to convey the information that the exporter was (un)able to parse the *full* extension header chain due to HW limitation. This could be done by adding a bit/counter “KNOWN” (the opposite of UNKNOWN in the sense of a known layer-4 header).”

I think that it would be simple to return that in a separate IE. Please refer to the proposal at: Extended TCP Options and IPv6 Extension Headers IPFIX Information Elements (boucadair.github.io)<https://boucadair.github.io/ipfix-tcpoptions-and-v6eh/draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-tcpo-v6eh.html#name-ipv6extensionheaderslimit-i>.

The absence of this IE is an indication that any EH-related IE reflect the full set of enclosed EHs.

Cheers,
Med

De : OPSAWG <opsawg-bounces@ietf.org> De la part de Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
Envoyé : vendredi 6 octobre 2023 14:49
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Objet : [OPSAWG] Some comments on draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-tcpo-v6eh

Benoît and Med,

Thanks for this useful document, please find below some comments (obviously without any hat).

Should the “No Next-Header” (next-header=59) be included (cfr my other remarks on the companion I-D) ?

There should be a way to convey the information that the exporter was (un)able to parse the *full* extension header chain due to HW limitation. This could be done by adding a bit/counter “KNOWN” (the opposite of UNKNOWN in the sense of a known layer-4 header).

About having counters per extension header how is “This Information Element echoes the order and number of occurrences” to be interpreted for the following flow?

HBH-RH-DST
HBH-DST-RH-FRA0-DST
HBH-DST-RH-FRA1-...
RH-DST

Will it be a single IE with HBH=3, DST=5, RH=3, FRA0=1, FRA1=1 or 4 IE exported (one for each chain) ?

I think that the 4 IE sounds more logical and useful, then there is no need to count the occurrences of one specific EH but more how often a specific EH chain was seen.

I still wonder why the tcpOptions and ipv6ExtensionHeaders are in the same I-D though ;-)

Hope this helps,

-éric


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