Re: [IPFIX] draft-kashima-ipfix-data-link-layer-monitoring

Shingo KASHIMA <kashima@nttv6.net> Mon, 08 November 2010 18:11 UTC

Return-Path: <kashima@nttv6.net>
X-Original-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ipfix@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326F63A6824 for <ipfix@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 10:11:35 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.6
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L8N+nk5Fo00V for <ipfix@core3.amsl.com>; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 10:11:33 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail.nttv6.net (mail.nttv6.net [IPv6:2001:fa8::25]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8C23A67DF for <ipfix@ietf.org>; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 10:11:32 -0800 (PST)
Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail.nttv6.net (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oA8IBihE022259; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 03:11:49 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from kashima@nttv6.net)
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 02:11:10 +0800
From: Shingo KASHIMA <kashima@nttv6.net>
To: Paul Aitken <paitken@cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <4CD81F1B.9020305@cisco.com>
References: <20101029171405.F0DD.1AB7FA03@nttv6.net> <4CD81F1B.9020305@cisco.com>
Message-Id: <20101109014328.D0A1.1AB7FA03@nttv6.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.50.05 [ja]
X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (mail.nttv6.net [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 09 Nov 2010 03:11:50 +0900 (JST)
Cc: IETF IPFIX Working Group <ipfix@ietf.org>, ipfix-chairs@tools.ietf.org
Subject: Re: [IPFIX] draft-kashima-ipfix-data-link-layer-monitoring
X-BeenThere: ipfix@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: IPFIX WG discussion list <ipfix.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix>, <mailto:ipfix-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipfix>
List-Post: <mailto:ipfix@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ipfix-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipfix>, <mailto:ipfix-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 18:11:35 -0000

Hi Paul,

Thanks for your review.

Please find tree answer for your comments inline.

The answer for the other comments are all
"yes, I will revise as your comments".

> >       Further Information Elements, i.e., dataLinkFrameType and
> >       dataLinkFrameSize are needed to specify the data link type and the
> >       size of the data link frame of this Information Element.  A set of
> >       these Information Elements MAY be contained in a structured data
> >       type, as expressed in another IPFIX WG draft.
> 
> You should specify the draft and include a reference.

I will refer to "Export of Structured Data in IPFIX
(draft-ietf-ipfix-structured-data-03.txt)".
Is that right ?


> > 4.4. dataLinkFrameOffset
> >
> >
> >    Description:
> >
> >       This Information Element specifies the offset of the observed
> >       dataLinkFrameSection within the data link frame.  If this
> >       Information Element is omitted, it defaults to zero.
> 
> I thought the intention was to create a generic "offset" field which 
> could be used with any packet section?

I also think a generic offset is better.
Then IE name should be changed to "sectionOffset".

But we have one problem.
We need to revise existing packet section IE's description.
Is this possible ?
- ipHeaderPacketSection
 carries a series of octets from the start of the IP header
                                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~
- ipPayloadPacketSection
 carries a series of octets from the start of the IP payload
                                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~
- mplsLabelStackSection
 carries the first n octets from the MPLS label stack
         ~~~~~~~~~
- mplsPayloadPacketSection
 carries the first n octets from the MPLS payload
         ~~~~~~~~~


> > 6. IANA Considerations
> >
> >
> >    This document requests that the Information Element IDs are allocated
> >    as shown in section 4.
> >
> >    In addition, the dataLinkFrameType Information Element requires the
> >    creation of new IANA registries.
> 
> I think only one new registry is needed for this. However, Nevil is 
> leading some discussion whether the values should be defined in the IE 
> description, rather than in separate registries.

I see.
To be defined in the IE description seems to be simple and good.

Best Regards,
Shingo.

-- 
Shingo KASHIMA <kashima@nttv6.net>
NTT Information Sharing Platform Lab.