[IPP] Re: Could HP help w/ DLNA section of IPP Everywhere?
Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> Mon, 26 September 2011 12:10 UTC
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From: Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
To: "Roberts, Daniel (IWS-ProgMgr)" <daniel.roberts@hp.com>, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>, ipp@pwg.org
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Subject: [IPP] Re: Could HP help w/ DLNA section of IPP Everywhere?
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Hi Robert, Thanks very much for your help. I'm forwarding your reply to the IPP WG mailing list to let others know. Cheers, - Ira On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:28 PM, Roberts, Daniel (IWS-ProgMgr) < daniel.roberts@hp.com> wrote: > HI Ira,**** > > ** ** > > Andrew Mitchell our architect had drafted the information you are looking > for and put it in the UPnP Spec on the PWG site, prior to taking a new > position in HP. You can find the information here: > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/whitepaper/draft-upnpprinter2-2011510.pdf ** > ** > > ** ** > > Andrew said that he put the information in the UPnP Spec, but did not get a > chance to add it to the IPP Everywhere spec where it belongs.**** > > ** ** > > You should know that this proposal is just being launched with UPnP. I > have been working with the UPnP Chair, Alan Messer, to bring up this new > printer attribute in UPnP. The challenge is to show the value in allowing > IPP to manage the services, and only use UPnP for discovery – essentially > replace what Bonjour(mDNS) does in IPP Everywhere and replace it with UPnP > for the same actions. Once we get approval, we can move quickly to get the > IPP Everywhere standard to become the new DLNA print model. Currently DLNA > uses UPnP and XHTML-Print which is very limited in the files it can > support. Moving to this new model will be a great step forward and will > open up printing in areas never before supported!**** > > ** ** > > Please let me know if there is anything I can to support the PWG.**** > > ** ** > > Best Regards,**** > > ** ** > > Daniel Roberts**** > > IWS Entertainment Printing Program Manager**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2011 2:00 PM > *To:* Roberts, Daniel (IWS-ProgMgr); Ira McDonald > *Cc:* Michael Sweet; Paul Tykodi; Yousey, Marc; Mitchell, Andrew (Mobile > Technology Consultant/iOS Architect) > *Subject:* Re: Could HP help w/ DLNA section of IPP Everywhere?**** > > ** ** > > Hi Daniel, > > In the PWG's current IPP Everywhere project (lightweight, secure, > mobile printing using IPP/2.0 w/ extensions), we have a brief section > for each of several discovery protocols. > > The latest draft IPP Everywhere spec is at: > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippeve10-20110803.pdf > > It has a placeholder section 4.4 UPNP Discovery - this needs to be > replaced by one or more paragraphs of text - and also renamed to > DLNA Discovery, I think? > > If you look at Table 1 in section 4.1, a similar mapping table > should be included in section 4.4 - otherwise Table 1 will become > unreadable due to font size, I think. > > If you look at section 4.2 DNS Service Discovery (i.e., Bonjour), > you can see the desired level of detail for the key device attributes. > > Note that section 4.3 LDAP and SLP Discovery simply references > the existing LDAP Printer Schema (RFC 3712) - which normatively > references the IANA-registered SLP Printer Schema. Pat Fleming > (IBM) and I are now revising RFC 3712 to add directory attributes > (printer-uuid, printer-geo-location, and ipp-extensions-supported) > that are all defined in the IPP Job and Printer Extensions Set 3 at: > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext3v10-20110802.pdf > > Any help with DLNA/UPnP discovery description for IPP Everywhere > would be much appreciated. > > Cheers, > - Ira > > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG > Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SWG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Christmas through April: > 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 > 734-944-0094 > May to Christmas: > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 > 906-494-2434**** > > > > **** > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Roberts, Daniel (IWS-ProgMgr) < > daniel.roberts@hp.com> wrote:**** > > Hi Ira,**** > > **** > > I am the Managing the work to support DLNA/UPnP in our printers. What can > I do for you?**** > > **** > > Regards,**** > > **** > > Daniel **** > > *From:* Yousey, Marc > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:13 PM > *To:* Ira McDonald; Michael Sweet; Paul Tykodi > *Cc:* Roberts, Daniel (IWS-ProgMgr) > *Subject:* RE: Could HP help w/ DLNA section of IPP Everywhere?**** > > **** > > Our man for that is Daniel Roberts (copied). Hopefully he can help you > out.**** > > **** > > M.**** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2011 3:08 PM > *To:* Yousey, Marc; Michael Sweet; Ira McDonald; Paul Tykodi > *Subject:* Could HP help w/ DLNA section of IPP Everywhere?**** > > **** > > Hi Marc, > > I have this action item from IPP WG to ask you about HP help > with the DLNA/UPnP discovery section of IPP Everywhere. > > Can you help or recommend an HP person to do so? > > Cheers, > - Ira > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG IPP WG > Chair - TCG Embedded Systems Hardcopy SWG > IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic > http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc > mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com > Christmas through April: > 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 > 734-944-0094 > May to Christmas: > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 > 906-494-2434**** > > **** > > ** ** > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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