Re: [IPP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8011 (6085)

Ira McDonald via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> Mon, 18 May 2020 15:34 UTC

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To: Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org>, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
Cc: PWG IPP Workgroup <ipp@pwg.org>
Subject: Re: [IPP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8011 (6085)
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Hi Mike,

I think we still have an open action to send a consensus errata text to the
RFC Editor?

Cheers,
- Ira

Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
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On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:21 AM Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> And of course "lowercase" (one word) and not "lower case"
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
> Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Secretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working Group
> Co-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WG
> IETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIB
> Blue Roof Music / High North Inc
> http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic
> http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc
> mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
> (permanent) PO Box 221  Grand Marais, MI 49839  906-494-2434
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:54 AM Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Yes, of course.  I guess I should proofread my minutes better... :)
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 24, 2020, at 12:10 AM, wamwagner@comcast.net wrote:
>> >
>> > I suggest that “…The first character SHOULD be a lower letter…” read
>> “The first character SHOULD be a lower case letter”
>> > Thanks.,
>> > Bill W.
>> >
>> > From: Michael Sweet via ipp
>> > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:39 PM
>> > To: Michael Sweet
>> > Cc: PWG IPP Workgroup
>> > Subject: Re: [IPP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8011 (6085)
>> >
>> > Follow-up from today's IPP WG conference call - the consensus is to
>> change section 5.1.4 to read:
>> >
>> > The 'keyword' attribute syntax is a sequence of characters, of length 1
>> to 255, containing only the US-ASCII [RFC20] encoded values for uppercase
>> letters ("A"-"Z"), lowercase letters ("a"-"z"), digits ("0"-"9"), hyphen
>> ("-"), dot ("."), and underscore ("_"). The first character SHOULD be a
>> lower letter, and all letters SHOULD be lowercase.
>> >
>> > Status should change to "confirmed", and we (at some point) will want
>> to do an update (sigh).
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Apr 10, 2020, at 8:31 PM, Michael Sweet via ipp <ipp@pwg.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Ira,
>> >
>> > Looks like my attempts to get my contact email changed haven't
>> completely been successful, either... :/  Comments below...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Apr 10, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Mike,
>> >
>> > We need to look into this errata on RFC 8011.
>> > ...
>> > --------------------------------------
>> > Type: Technical
>> > Reported by: Thomas Urban <thomas.urban@cepharum.de>
>> >
>> > Section: 5.1.4
>> >
>> > Original Text
>> > -------------
>> > The 'keyword' attribute syntax is a sequence of characters, of length
>> > 1 to 255, containing only the US-ASCII [RFC20] encoded values for
>> > lowercase letters ("a"-"z"), digits ("0"-"9"), hyphen ("-"), dot
>> > ("."), and underscore ("_").  The first character MUST be a lowercase
>> > letter.
>> >
>> > Corrected Text
>> > --------------
>> > The 'keyword' attribute syntax is a sequence of characters, of length
>> > 1 to 255, containing only the US-ASCII [RFC20] encoded values for
>> > uppercase letters ("A"-"Z"), lowercase letters ("a"-"z"), digits
>> > ("0"-"9"), hyphen ("-"), dot ("."), and underscore ("_").
>> >
>> > I think we need to be careful about changing this, but AFAIK this
>> change shouldn't cause a problem (CUPS will accept this, at least...)
>> >
>> >
>> > Notes
>> > -----
>> > First, the "keyword" syntax is applicable to values of enumerations
>> according to section 5.1.5 stating
>> >
>> >   Each value has an associated 'keyword' name.
>> >
>> > However, section 5.4.15 is declaring some enum-type attribute with
>> names per integer value using uppercase letters in violation of 5.1.4.
>> Those names are commonly used all over the specification and thus it is
>> rather common to assume those values are meant to be keyword-compliant
>> names of given enumeration.
>> >
>> > First, these are operation names, and second the keyword associated
>> with an enum is informative and not transmitted over the wire...
>> >
>> >
>> > Second, section 5.1.4 is stating
>> >
>> >    The first character MUST be a lowercase letter.
>> >
>> > referring to "a"-"z" according to enumeration of accepted characters
>> given right before that. In opposition to that statement 5.4.14 is declaring
>> >
>> >    The following standard 'keyword' values are defined in this document:
>> >
>> >    * '1.0' [..]
>> >    * '1.1' [..]
>> >
>> > Neither of the two "keywords" start with a lowercase letter.
>> >
>> > True.
>> >
>> > ________________________
>> > Michael Sweet
>> >
>> >
>> >
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