Re: [IPP] Fwd: Zstd compression (FYI)

Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> Wed, 15 November 2017 15:39 UTC

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From: Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com>
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Subject: Re: [IPP] Fwd: Zstd compression (FYI)
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Ira,

Yeah, the naming is unfortunate - perhaps the Facebook folks would be open to renaming it to "Znext" or something?  I didn't read far enough in to comment on any of the crypto/hash usage, but the new data compression technique is certainly novel.


> On Nov 15, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> Zstandard has provoked a lively discussion on IETF lists.  Noteworthy 
> comments included Harald Alvestrand objecting strongly to the use of
> "standard" in the name (he's gotten lots of support for this comment)
> and several cryptographers questioning why it's worthwhile, given that
> it uses existing crypto primitives and it currently lacks good treatment 
> of the security considerations.
> 
> Cheers,
> - Ira
> 
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
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> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com <mailto:msweet@apple.com>> wrote:
> and I am passing it on as well.
> 
> Some information on Zstd, which I hadn't heard of until this morning, which looks really interesting:
> 
> 	http://facebook.github.io/zstd/ <http://facebook.github.io/zstd/>
> 
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com <mailto:superuser@gmail.com>>
>> Subject: Zstd compression (FYI)
>> Date: November 15, 2017 at 2:57:47 AM EST
>> To: ietf-http-wg@w3.org <mailto:ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
>> Resent-From: Yves Lafon <ylafon@w3.org <mailto:ylafon@w3.org>>
>> Resent-To: HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org <mailto:ietf-http-wg@w3.org>>
>> 
>> I'd like to make this WG aware of a draft that's being processed in the ART area, namely draft-kucherawy-dispatch-zstd[1].  It describes a data compression algorithm and registers a related media type and content encoding.  The developers aren't seeking browser adoption at this point but since it is making entries in registries affecting in this area, I wanted to make it visible here.
>> 
>> It was discussed briefly in DISPATCH at IETF 100, and it was decided that it will be AD-sponsored.  There's no action item for HTTPBIS.  Just FYI.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> -MSK
>> 
>> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kucherawy-dispatch-zstd/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kucherawy-dispatch-zstd/>
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