Re: [IPP] Updated draft of IPP Driverless Printing Extensions v2.0 posted for review

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To: Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [IPP] Updated draft of IPP Driverless Printing Extensions v2.0 posted for review
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I found some other issues so I've actually withdrawn that draft.

Smith

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> On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:33 AM, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Smith,
> 
> Thanks.  I concur w/ Mike's comments on the scope of these attributes.
> 
> Cheers,
> - Ira
> 
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG
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> On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 7:30 AM Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via ipp <ipp@pwg.org <mailto:ipp@pwg.org>> wrote:
> OK, I will restore those and post a new draft.
> 
> Smith
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:26 AM, Michael Sweet <msweet@msweet.org <mailto:msweet@msweet.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Smith,
>> 
>> "device-uuid", "printer-organization", and "printer-organizational-unit" are required for IPP Everywhere, which is not an enterprise-focused document. "device-service-count" is a count of services that use the same output device, which crosses enterprise, production, and cloud/shared infrastructure.
>> 
>> I can appreciate wanting to clean up the scope of this document, but I think we want to be careful about moving common attributes to highly-focused specifications who scope and conformance requirements don't match how they are used in things like IPP Everywhere.
>> 
>> 
>> > On Feb 4, 2020, at 12:24 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & IPP Standards) via ipp <ipp@pwg.org <mailto:ipp@pwg.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Greetings,
>> >
>> > I've just posted an updated draft of IPP Driverless Printing Extensions v2.0. It is available here:
>> >
>> > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippnodriver20-20200203.pdf <https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippnodriver20-20200203.pdf>
>> > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippnodriver20-20200203.docx <https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippnodriver20-20200203.docx>
>> > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippnodriver20-20200203-rev.pdf <https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippnodriver20-20200203-rev.pdf>
>> > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippnodriver20-20200203-rev.docx <https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippnodriver20-20200203-rev.docx>
>> >
>> > Changes in this revision include:
>> >
>> > • Accepted all changes and made all recommended edits from the November F2F review, which stopped at section 6.2. Made substantial changes from the beginning:
>> > • Reviewed and rewrote the Abstract and Introduction to better match the new title
>> > • Reviewed and rewrote a number of the use cases and added new use cases that should have already been there
>> > • Created table in section 4 mapping coordinating Use Cases and Design Requirements to the corresponding IPP additions defined in the body of the document
>> > • Imported the IPP Presets registration document definitions to add them to this specification
>> > • Moved "device-service-count", "device-uuid", "printer-organization", and "printer-organizational-unit" attributes and their associated use cases to IPP Enterprise Printing Extensions v2.0 [PWG5100.11-2020] because they are more aligned with enterprise printing than driverless printing
>> > I'm afraid the next review will require starting at the beginning again, but I think the old text from 5100.13 needed rewriting to match the title and to better cover the attributes that 5100.13 had already defined as well as the additions.
>> >
>> > Smith
>> >
>> > /**
>> > Smith Kennedy
>> > HP Inc.
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