Re: [ippm] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data-12: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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From: "Frank Brockners (fbrockne)" <fbrockne@cisco.com>
To: Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
CC: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, Al Morton <acm@research.att.com>, "ippm-chairs@ietf.org" <ippm-chairs@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data@ietf.org>, "ippm@ietf.org" <ippm@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data-12: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Subject: Re: [ippm] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data-12: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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I'd follow your suggestion, but IMHO it should be informative. 
draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data defines the IOAM data-fields. 
The ops draft is supposed to provide a best common practice (hence the intended status) for how a deployment uses IOAM data-fields. 
But it does not mean, that the ops draft would describe the one and only way how IOAM data-fields would be used in a deployment.
Given that the ops draft is one conclusion for deploying IOAM (potentially out of several others), this very much smells like an "informative" reference to me.

Thoughts?

Thanks, Frank

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
> Sent: Dienstag, 27. April 2021 23:18
> To: Frank Brockners (fbrockne) <fbrockne=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> Cc: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>; The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>; Al Morton
> <acm@research.att.com>; ippm-chairs@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-
> data@ietf.org; ippm@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data-12: (with
> DISCUSS and COMMENT)
> 
> I guess the question is whether the ops draft should be a normative reference?
> 
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 8:38 AM Frank Brockners (fbrockne) <fbrockne=
> 40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Roman,
> >
> > Thanks a lot for your review - and sorry for the delay in responding.
> > Please see inline ("..FB").
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Roman Danyliw via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org>
> > > Sent: Mittwoch, 24. März 2021 16:06
> > > To: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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> > ippm@ietf.org;
> > > Al Morton <acm@research.att.com>; acm@research.att.com
> > > Subject: Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data-12:
> > > (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
> > >
> > > Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for
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> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --
> > > DISCUSS:
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> > > --
> > >
> > > Please clarify what constitutes the edge or boundary of the IOAM
> > > domain