Re: [ippm] WG interest in Multicast performance monitoring drafts

Yaakov Stein <yaakov_s@rad.com> Mon, 02 August 2010 06:30 UTC

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I see two distinct issues here :
  1) passive monitoring 
  2) multicast performance

If IPPM is interested in entering into passive monitoring methods,
then perhaps it should define these for unicast flows first.
(As I mentioned at the meeting, MEF has developed a lot of this for layer-2.)

Multicast performance is indeed an important topic to be studied.

Y(J)S

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From: ippm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ippm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Henk Uijterwaal
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Subject: [ippm] WG interest in Multicast performance monitoring drafts

IPPM Group,

Last Monday, Alberto and others presented this set of drafts:

> > at the upcoming IPPM meeting in Maastricht we will present a draft about
> > multicast performance monitoring
> > (draft-bipi-mboned-ip-multicast-pm-requirement-01).
> > Requirement draft:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bipi-mboned-ip-multicast-pm-requirement-01
> > Solution drafts:
> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-liu-mboned-multicast-realstream-monitor-02
> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cociglio-mboned-multicast-pm-00

We would like to know if people consider this topic appropriate for
the IPPM WG, and if so, if there is interest to work on this topic.

The drafts discuss passive measurements of actual traffic streams, using
the metrics developed in IPPM.  In the current charter, this work is
out of scope, so picking it up would require a charter change.  Obviously,
we only want to do this if there is sufficient interest in the work.

Please respond to the list or the chairs in private by September 13.

Matt & Henk


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