Re: [ippm] On draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-valua-added-octets
Steve Baillargeon <steve.baillargeon@ericsson.com> Mon, 26 March 2012 07:48 UTC
Return-Path: <steve.baillargeon@ericsson.com>
X-Original-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ippm@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C50A21F856D for <ippm@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 00:48:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -6.599
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8WjVb2r4xCes for <ippm@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 00:48:54 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from imr3.ericy.com (imr3.ericy.com [198.24.6.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 815FB21F857A for <ippm@ietf.org>; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 00:48:54 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) by imr3.ericy.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q2Q7mrWR009428 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 26 Mar 2012 02:48:54 -0500
Received: from EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.55]) by eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) with mapi; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 03:48:52 -0400
From: Steve Baillargeon <steve.baillargeon@ericsson.com>
To: Henk Uijterwaal <henk@uijterwaal.nl>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 03:48:50 -0400
Thread-Topic: [ippm] On draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-valua-added-octets
Thread-Index: Ac0Fq0PcI74+OHQ+RUWN1Dya8OyyQAFdomDQ
Message-ID: <4383945B8C24AA4FBC33555BB7B829EF178A8FD467@EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se>
References: <4F1E8DF2.2050401@uijterwaal.nl> <4F338A6F.4070706@uijterwaal.nl> <4F4C9C19.6060609@uijterwaal.nl> <4F66EFAE.8040501@uijterwaal.nl>
In-Reply-To: <4F66EFAE.8040501@uijterwaal.nl>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach: yes
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
acceptlanguage: en-US
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="_002_4383945B8C24AA4FBC33555BB7B829EF178A8FD467EUSAACMS0701e_"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Cc: IETF IPPM WG <ippm@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [ippm] On draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-valua-added-octets
X-BeenThere: ippm@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF IP Performance Metrics Working Group <ippm.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/ippm>, <mailto:ippm-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ippm>
List-Post: <mailto:ippm@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:ippm-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm>, <mailto:ippm-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 07:48:55 -0000
Good morning Henk We have updated the draft as requested. See enclosed notice. Please let us know if the changes are OK. Regards Steve -----Original Message----- From: ippm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ippm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Henk Uijterwaal Sent: March-19-12 9:35 AM To: IETF IPPM WG Subject: [ippm] On draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-valua-added-octets On 28/02/2012 10:19, Henk Uijterwaal wrote: > Please see below. This document has meanwhile been submitted as > draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-valua-added-octets and the authors have asked > for comments. Speaking as both myself and a WG chair, not sure where to draw the line. I have reviewed the document. Technically, it looks quite clear, I have some comments on how to fit this into the bigger picture though: 1. The reason for publishing this draft is to document the work done by the authors in a permanent way. The WG has reviewed the document to verify that the description of the work done is clear. The document is not published as "the WG consensus solution" to a specific problem, as there is no consensus amongst the WG on what the problem is. There has been no discussion and there no consensus either if this solution is the one the WG prefers. The abstract and introduction should explicitly says this. What I want to avoid, is that this gets to be the de facto standard without WG consensus on the problem or the solution. 2. The IANA section can be dropped. Yes, there is a registry and the authors made private extension to it, but now that the experiment is over, they can be removed again, and IANA doesn't have to do anything now. 3. I think it would be good to mention that there is a working prototype implementation of these extensions, with a reference if that is at all possible. The document should say that it describes the prototype as it was on the day the document was written. I did noticed changes in the protocol extensions over the versions. Is this because the prototype was modified? Henk -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Henk Uijterwaal Email: henk(at)uijterwaal.nl http://www.uijterwaal.nl Phone: +31.6.55861746 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There appears to have been a collective retreat from reality that day. (John Glanfield, on an engineering project) _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm
--- Begin Message ---A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the IP Performance Metrics Working Group of the IETF. Title : TWAMP Value-Added Octets Author(s) : Steve Baillargeon Christofer Flinta Andreas Johnsson Svante Ekelin Filename : draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-value-added-octets-01.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2012-03-26 This memo describes an extension to the TWAMP test protocol for identifying and managing packet trains, which enables measuring capacity metrics like the available path capacity, tight section capacity and UDP delivery rate in the forward and reverse path directions. This memo is the product of a working prototype. It does not represent a consensus of the IETF community. The IETF community is currently working on the problem statement and has not reached consensus on the preferred method for measuring capacity metrics. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-value-added-octets-01.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-value-added-octets-01.txt _______________________________________________ ippm mailing list ippm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm--- End Message ---
- [ippm] Request to publish draft-baillargeon-ippm-… Henk Uijterwaal
- Re: [ippm] Request to publish draft-baillargeon-i… Steve Baillargeon
- Re: [ippm] Request to publish draft-baillargeon-i… Henk Uijterwaal
- [ippm] Please review draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-valua-… Henk Uijterwaal
- [ippm] On draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-valua-added-octets Henk Uijterwaal
- Re: [ippm] On draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-valua-added-o… Steve Baillargeon
- Re: [ippm] On draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-valua-added-o… Henk Uijterwaal