Re: [ippm] Proposed changes to default settings in the Capacity metric load adjustment algorithm
Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com> Fri, 27 August 2021 20:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ippm] Proposed changes to default settings in the Capacity metric load adjustment algorithm
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yes, let's make the change and proceed. Thanks On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 3:22 PM <gregory.mirsky@ztetx.com> wrote: > Hi, Martin et al., > > my apologies for the late response. > > I've reviewed the proposed changes in the default values. I agree that > these changes make the out-of-box capacity measurement less sensitive to an > occasional non-congestion-related loss of packets while preserving the > algorithm's fast ramp-up behavior. Clearly, a win-win update. I support it. > > > Regards, > > Greg Mirsky > > > Sr. Standardization Expert > 预研标准部/有线研究院/有线产品经营部 Standard Preresearch Dept./Wireline Product R&D > Institute/Wireline Product Operation Division > > > > E: gregory.mirsky@ztetx.com > www.zte.com.cn > Original Mail > *Sender: *MartinDuke > *To: *MORTON JR., AL; > *CC: *ippm-ads@ietf.org;IPPM Chairs;ippm@ietf.org; > *Date: *2021/08/12 10:49 > *Subject: **Re: [ippm] Proposed changes to default settings in the > Capacity metric load adjustment algorithm* > _______________________________________________ > ippm mailing list > ippm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ippm > > Hello IPPM, > > If you have any comments about this change, please send them to this list > no later than 24 August. > > On Tue, Aug 3, 2021 at 3:01 PM MORTON JR., AL <acmorton@att.com> wrote: > >> IPPM, >> >> I want to point out that some recent results conducted by others >> encouraged us to test some additional values for seq error threshold and a >> wider value range of values for consecutive errored status (during feedback >> intervals). We discovered that we would like to revise the default values >> to make the load adjustment a little less-sensitive to >> non-congestion-related loss and protect the fast ramp-up from ending >> prematurely. For example, a very short burst of lost packets spanning the >> boundary between two feedback intervals is currently sufficient to end fast >> ramp-up. >> >> The current table in 8.1 contains: >> +--------------+-------------+--------------+-----------------------+ >> | Parameter | Default | Tested Range | Expected Safe Range | >> | | | or values | (not entirely tested, | >> | | | | other values NOT | >> | | | | RECOMMENDED) | >> +--------------+-------------+--------------+-----------------------+ >> ... >> +--------------+-------------+--------------+-----------------------+ >> | sequence | 0 | 0, 100 | same as tested | >> | error | | | | >> | threshold | | | | >> +--------------+-------------+--------------+-----------------------+ >> | consecutive | 2 | 2 | Use values >1 to | >> | errored | | | avoid misinterpreting | >> | status | | | transient loss | >> +--------------+-------------+--------------+-----------------------+ >> >> >> The revised table rows would look like this: >> >> +--------------+-------------+--------------+-----------------------+ >> | Parameter | Default | Tested Range | Expected Safe Range | >> | | | or values | (not entirely tested, | >> | | | | other values NOT | >> | | | | RECOMMENDED) | >> +--------------+-------------+--------------+-----------------------+ >> ... >> +--------------+-------------+--------------+-----------------------+ >> | sequence | 10 | 0,1,5,10,100 | same as tested | >> | error | | | | >> | threshold | | | | >> +--------------+-------------+--------------+-----------------------+ >> | consecutive | 3 | 2,3,4,5 | Use values >1 to | >> | errored | | | avoid misinterpreting | >> | status | | | transient loss | >> +--------------+-------------+--------------+-----------------------+ >> >> Somehow, persistent non-congestion-related loss had mostly eluded our >> previous tests. But our goal has been to provide default values that will >> work in automated testing run by anyone in any implementation or >> circumstances - not just ~expert users and those who run the udpst utility. >> >> So we'd like to change default values for: >> >> seq error threshold from 0 to 10 >> consecutive errored status from 2 to 3 >> >> and update our tested range/values column as well. >> >> Al >> >> >
- [ippm] Proposed changes to default settings in th… MORTON JR., AL
- Re: [ippm] Proposed changes to default settings i… Martin Duke
- Re: [ippm] Proposed changes to default settings i… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [ippm] Proposed changes to default settings i… gregory.mirsky
- Re: [ippm] Proposed changes to default settings i… Martin Duke
- Re: [ippm] Proposed changes to default settings i… MORTON JR., AL