Re: [ippm] New Version Notification for draft-mdt-ippm-explicit-flow-measurements-00.txt

Ian Swett <ianswett@google.com> Mon, 16 November 2020 09:06 UTC

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From: Ian Swett <ianswett@google.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 04:05:48 -0500
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Subject: Re: [ippm] New Version Notification for draft-mdt-ippm-explicit-flow-measurements-00.txt
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Tommy and I really appreciate you merging the drafts and I'd encourage
everyone in the working group to read the updated draft and provide
feedback as needed.

Thanks, Ian

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 4:02 AM Giuseppe Fioccola <
giuseppe.fioccola@huawei.com> wrote:

> Hi Igor, Mauro, All,
> Thank you for pointing this out.
> Let me also highlight the great work we did to merge the two previous
> drafts (draft-ferrieuxhamchaoui-tsvwg-lossbits and
> draft-cfb-ippm-spinbit-measurements) with a lot of email discussion within
> the design team.
>
> Regards,
>
> Giuseppe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ippm [mailto:ippm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lubashev, Igor
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 8:18 AM
> To: Bulgarella Fabio (Guest) <fabio.bulgarella=
> 40guest.telecomitalia.it@dmarc.ietf.org>; IETF IPPM WG <ippm@ietf.org>
> Cc: Marcus Ihlar <marcus.ihlar@ericsson.com>; quic@ietf.org;
> draft-mdt-ippm-explicit-flow-measurements@ietf.org; Jari Arkko <
> jari.arkko@ericsson.com>; emile.stephan@orange.com
> Subject: Re: [ippm] New Version Notification for
> draft-mdt-ippm-explicit-flow-measurements-00.txt
>
> Thanks for presenting this draft today, Mauro.
>
> This work has been presented and well-received in multiple working groups
> (quic, tsvwg, mops, maprg) as well as ippm during multiple previous IETF
> meetings.  The present draft is a result of much feedback we received
> there.  Since the draft is ultimately about measurement techniques --
> ippm's domain -- we've called for its adoption today.
>
> Best,
>
> - Igor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bulgarella Fabio (Guest) <fabio.bulgarella=
> 40guest.telecomitalia.it@dmarc.ietf.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 5:45 AM
> To: IETF IPPM WG <ippm@ietf.org>
> Cc: quic@ietf.org; Marcus Ihlar <marcus.ihlar@ericsson.com>;
> draft-mdt-ippm-explicit-flow-measurements@ietf.org;
> emile.stephan@orange.com; Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@ericsson.com>
> Subject: I: New Version Notification for
> draft-mdt-ippm-explicit-flow-measurements-00.txt
>
> Dear IPPM WG,
>
> following up the discussion on the mailing list and in the previous
> meeting (IETF 108), we merged the previous two drafts on explicit measures
> (draft-ferrieuxhamchaoui-tsvwg-lossbits,
> draft-cfb-ippm-spinbit-measurements) in the enclosed new document.
>
> The authors of the previous drafts and other contributors jointly worked
> on this new revision in order to merge the content of the two drafts making
> a unified explanation.
> A recap section has been added to give an immediate overview of the
> available methodologies, for both delay and loss metrics, by using
> comparing tables.
>
> If you want, you could also have a look at this new related IPPM draft
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-cnbf-ippm-user-devices-explicit-monitoring-00.txt__;!!GjvTz_vk!Dw_7Wq42NUtivV0I3sp_4lfabGH0G7qV7b-nmTVfu0Eg9qZyh7DL48pASuIRm3s$
>
> Comments and suggestions are more than welcome.
>
> Best Regards,
> Fabio B.
>
>
> ________________________________________
> Da: internet-drafts@ietf.org <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> Inviato: lunedì 2 novembre 2020 16:30
> A: Riccardo Sisto; Giuseppe Fioccola; Bulgarella Fabio (Guest); Alexandre
> Ferrieux; Isabelle Hamchaoui; Igor Lubashev; Cociglio Mauro; Dmitri
> Tikhonov; Nilo Massimo
> Oggetto: [EXT] New Version Notification for
> draft-mdt-ippm-explicit-flow-measurements-00.txt
>
> A new version of I-D, draft-mdt-ippm-explicit-flow-measurements-00.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Igor Lubashev and posted to the IETF
> repository.
>
> Name:           draft-mdt-ippm-explicit-flow-measurements
> Revision:       00
> Title:          Explicit Flow Measurements Techniques
> Document date:  2020-11-02
> Group:          Individual Submission
> Pages:          38
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> Abstract:
>    This document describes protocol independent methods called Explicit
>    Flow Measurement Techniques that employ few marking bits, inside the
>    header of each packet, for loss and delay measurement.  The
>    endpoints, marking the traffic, signal these metrics to intermediate
>    observers allowing them to measure connection performance, and to
>    locate the network segment where impairments happen.  Different
>    alternatives are considered within this document.  These signaling
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