[ippm] missed comments on draft-mirsky-ippm-epm in today's IPPM meeting

"Yangfan(Fan,IP Standards)" <shirley.yangfan@huawei.com> Thu, 11 November 2021 19:32 UTC

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From: "Yangfan(Fan,IP Standards)" <shirley.yangfan@huawei.com>
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Subject: [ippm] missed comments on draft-mirsky-ippm-epm in today's IPPM meeting
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Dear authors,



Due to limited time in today's meeting, I had to come back to the list with my comments.

1)       In the draft, the terminology of error is not explicitly defined. We wouldn't know what metric/event/state would be called as error. The I-D mentioned ITU-T G.826, it is confusing whether it is the error bit in constant bit rate transmission. It will be good to clarify it in later revisions.

2)       EPM is mentioned as a state based mechanism. I question whether it is an effective way in packet switched network. In PSN, BER value on physical interface is commonly used as the parameter to indicate error on physical links. Why bother to define the statistical multiplexing parameters?

3)       The concept of Xaas imported in the new revision is quite confusing to me. What exactly relations between Xaas and EPM, what relations it is between MTBF/MTTR metrics and ES/SES/EFS metrics defined for Xaas and EPM respectively?



It is much appreciated if the authors can kindly clarify the questions.



Best regards,

Fan