Re: IETF Trust FAQ
Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> Mon, 15 January 2007 18:14 UTC
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From: Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org>
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Cc: "Joel M. Halpern" <joel@stevecrocker.com>, steven.legg@eb2bcom.com, IPR WG <ipr-wg@ietf.org>, "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@cs.columbia.edu>
Subject: Re: IETF Trust FAQ
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Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> writes: > Switched to a more relevant list, where this horse has > been thoroughly flogged already: Btw, to move closer to a settling the issue, it would be useful to add more information to the issue tracker: https://rt.psg.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=1339 Relevant information would include statements by Scott Bradner: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bradner-rfc-extracts-00 "Section 3.3(a)(E) of RFC 3667 [RFC 3667] requires that the author(s) of IETF contributions grant the IETF the right to make and use certain types of extracts of the contributions for purposes not limited to the IETF standards process. When I wrote that section I intended that to mean that anyone could make such extracts but the wording I used limited the permission to the IETF. This document tries to fix the words to match my intent." That confirm that I interpret the wordings of RFC 3978 the same as Scott Bradner. I agree that the intention wasn't the same as the wording, and that we should fix that. Debian interpret the BCP 78 license as non-free: http://release.debian.org/removing-non-free-documentation http://bugs.debian.org/199810 As a consequence, Debian do not include RFCs (or, supposedly, material derived from RFCs) in their distribution. I recall receiving replies from the FSF legal department regarding the RFC 2026 license, and possibly also the RFC 3978 license, that may be relevant. If there is genuine interest, I could dig it up. /Simon _______________________________________________ Ipr-wg mailing list Ipr-wg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipr-wg
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- Re: IETF Trust FAQ Simon Josefsson
- Re: IETF Trust FAQ Brian E Carpenter
- Re: IETF Trust FAQ todd glassey
- Re: IETF Trust FAQ Simon Josefsson
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- RE: IETF Trust FAQ Contreras, Jorge
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- Re: IETF Trust FAQ Steven M. Bellovin
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- Re: IETF Trust FAQ Harald Alvestrand
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- RE: IETF Trust FAQ Lawrence Rosen
- ADMIN: One topic per subject line (Re: IETF Trust… Harald Alvestrand
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- Purpose of this WG [Re: IETF Trust FAQ] Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Patented RFC Code John C Klensin
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- RE: Patented RFC Code Lawrence Rosen
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- IETF Patent policy (was RE: IETF Trust FAQ) Ted Hardie
- RE: IETF Patent policy (was RE: IETF Trust FAQ) Lawrence Rosen
- RE: IETF Patent policy (was RE: IETF Trust FAQ) Ted Hardie
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- Case study: SHA2 (was: Re: Patented RFC Code) Simon Josefsson
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