Re: Effective vs intended handling of patent encumbrance in IETF wg and IESG

[Harald Tveit Alvestrand <[e-mail]>]

I must admit I'm lost here.

All the dates I can find are:

- November 20, 2006: draft-ietf-dnsext-rollover-requirements-04 published
- February 26, 2007: draft-koch-dnsop-resolver-priming published
- March 19, 2007: DNS resolver priming discussed in Prague @DNSOP
- April 19, 2007: Patent request filed in Canada
- April 20, 2007: draft-moreau-srvloc-dnssec-priming-00 is published
- May 9, 2007: draft-moreau-srvloc-dnssec-priming-01 is published
- May 10, 2007: Thierry Moreau informally discloses existence of IPR
- June 5, 2007: Thierry Moreau formally discloses existence of patent 
applciation

Unless time travel is involved, I cannot see any way the current existence 
of the patent application filed in April 2007 can have influenced the draft 
published in November 2006.

What have I failed to understand?

                 Harald

--On 8. juni 2007 14:52 -0700 Lucy Lynch <[e-mail]> wrote:

> On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>
>> On 2007-06-05 15:24, Thierry Moreau wrote:
>>> For your information:
>>>
>>> In draft-ietf-dnsext-rollover-requirements, an IETF wg effectively made
>>> an  a-priori decision to avoid the consideration of an IPR encumbered
>>> alternative; the problem area being DNSSEC trust anchor key management.
>>> I  spare you the details of how the wg came to this decision, and how
>>> it  relates to the a-priori rejected alternative.
>>>
>>> Now that the IESG accepted the above draft for publication as an RFC,
>>> it  becomes a procedural precedent for attempts to expeditiously
>>> restrict IETF  activities to IPR unencumbered alternatives.
>>
>> Our rules have allowed WGs to choose to favor unencumbered solutions
>> for many years. You'd have to be much more specific about what
>> you mean by 'a priori' to explain why you think this is a precedent.
>
> a bit of catch up for those who aren't following DNSSEC
>
> http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dnsop/current/msg05465.html
>   https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_detail_show.cgi?&ipr_id=856
>   http://www.connotech.com/optin_for_dnssec.pdf
> http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/dnsop/current/msg05527.html
>
>>      Brian
>>
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