Re: Copying conditions

Paul Hoffman / VPNC <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> writes:

> At 3:39 PM +0100 1/6/05, Simon Josefsson wrote:
>>See Appendix B:
>>
>>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-josefsson-rfc2538bis-01.txt
>
> <bold>IANAL</bold>, but I doubt that putting two conflicting 
> copyright statements in one document makes any sense legally.

A work may be owned by more than one person?

Generally, I don't understand how ISOC can claim copyright of my work.
I didn't sign any papers agreeing to transfer the copyright.

Is copyright transfer by anything but real signatures legally binding?

Perhaps it is based on the good will, that authors won't challenge
that ISOC own the copyright.

It appears as if moral rights cannot be negotiated away fully [1],
though, so presumably I could object to ISOC's publication of my work.

> Instead, would this be better for your document?

Perhaps if it was altered to only apply to the part of the document
that I wrote.  It is a -bis document, so I didn't write most of it.

Btw, perhaps the original authors should still be mentioned in the
header, even if they did not participate in the -bis document effort?

There is another document:

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-josefsson-openpgp-mailnews-header-00.txt

The authors wrote the entire document, and agreed to the stated
permissive copying conditions.  I believe these two documents
illustrate two different cases, both relevant.

Harald Alvestrand clarified that putting the copying condition in a
document was not the final solution, so I'm not sure I understand why
we are improving the text.  If I read Harald correct this time,
putting the copying condition in a submitted document was a first
step, that would allow the IETF to discuss this matter.  I didn't
think the discussion would be about what text I use.  Rather, I
thought it would be about how similar rights can be granted for all
IETF documents.  Feel free to correct me again.

Thanks,
Simon

[1] Article 6bis of
http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/berne/trtdocs_wo001.html#P123_20726

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