Re: IPsec and Fragmentation
"Michael C. Richardson" <mcr@sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> Mon, 06 July 1998 18:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: IPsec and Fragmentation
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "M" == M C Nelson <netsec@panix.com> writes: M> IPSEC WG, M> I just want to add a parenthetic note, that PMTU seems to really be at M> odds with the definition and philosophy of IP, i.e. IP in general, is M> supposed to be able to fragment packets in route, and routes are in M> general subject to change. I have some difficulty understanding why an M> appropriate IP encryption standard that is supposed to become general M> usage, would require such dissonances with the general case use of its M> host architecture. a) go read the PMTU spec. b) routes changes, and the PMTU changes as a result. c) IPv6 does not fragment packets. Deal with it, don't try and change the way things have gone ahead. I see that draft-richardson-ipsec-pmtu-discov-01.txt has expired. Please read it. I have some revisions that I didn't change, and I will resubmit ASAP. In the meantime, please see: 1. http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/SSW/ietf/draft-richardson-ipsec-pmtu-discovery-00.txt 2. grep'ing my <A HREF="http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ipsec/">archives</A. for "PMTU" reveals the following: [yes, you will be able to search it very soon] Please read these before posting. We have had extensive discussion. 1995/10/msg00218.html 1995/10/msg00222.html 1995/10/msg00223.html 1995/11/msg00135.html 1995/11/msg00139.html 1995/11/msg00140.html 1996/08/msg00004.html 1997/02/msg00110.html 1997/02/msg00197.html 1997/03/msg00129.html 1997/03/msg00133.html 1997/03/msg00159.html 1997/03/msg00170.html 1997/04/msg00197.html 1997/04/msg00198.html 1997/04/msg00200.html 1997/04/msg00203.html 1997/04/msg00228.html 1997/04/msg00230.html 1997/04/msg00231.html 1997/04/msg00227.html 1997/04/msg00236.html 1997/04/msg00237.html 1997/04/msg00238.html 1997/04/msg00239.html 1997/04/msg00240.html 1997/04/msg00243.html 1997/04/msg00244.html 1997/05/msg00003.html 1997/05/msg00002.html 1997/05/msg00004.html 1997/05/msg00127.html 1997/05/msg00165.html 1997/05/msg00166.html 1997/06/msg00001.html 1997/06/msg00053.html 1997/06/msg00146.html 1997/06/msg00147.html 1997/06/msg00150.html 1997/06/msg00155.html 1997/07/msg00125.html 1997/07/msg00230.html 1997/10/msg00043.html 1997/10/msg00130.html 1997/11/msg00011.html 1997/11/msg00012.html 1997/11/msg00029.html 1997/11/msg00031.html 1997/11/msg00063.html 1997/12/msg00002.html 1997/12/msg00019.html 1997/12/msg00055.html 1998/01/msg00010.html 1998/02/msg00127.html 1998/02/msg00150.html 1998/02/msg00120.html 1998/02/msg00139.html 1998/02/msg00204.html 1998/02/msg00203.html 1998/02/msg00216.html 1998/02/msg00233.html 1998/03/msg00120.html 1998/03/msg00118.html 1998/03/msg00148.html 1998/03/msg00147.html 1998/03/msg00151.html 1998/03/msg00152.html 1998/03/msg00154.html 1998/03/msg00159.html 1998/03/msg00170.html 1998/03/msg00184.html 1998/03/msg00207.html 1998/03/msg00212.html 1998/03/msg00213.html 1998/03/msg00214.html 1998/03/msg00220.html 1998/03/msg00233.html 1998/03/msg00265.html 1998/04/msg00167.html 1998/05/msg00071.html 1998/05/msg00188.html 1998/05/msg00189.html 1998/05/msg00212.html 1998/05/msg00253.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQB1AwUBNaEbm9iXVu0RiA21AQFW0gL+JMIU2Wcrbn3o3vmcwcKEZ0duEPxLhsQB Sw2NEtD4vJlsGdDgIseJpGalRwFQGGG3yUySy/2YqCg9bsmNaGlpbAZ05b5exnF8 VPBev0BfMJNIInm1u2e70puwwMTUcAEZ =WgKI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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