Re: [IPsec] draft-smyslov-ipsecme-ikev2-null-auth-01

Paul <paul@nohats.ca> Thu, 05 June 2014 03:05 UTC

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From: Paul <paul@nohats.ca>
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 23:05:34 -0400
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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Subject: Re: [IPsec] draft-smyslov-ipsecme-ikev2-null-auth-01
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The connections are host to host only, all ports, no gateways. You can call it no PAD, or call this policy the PAD. I don't see a problem with mapping auth none to this policy?

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> On Jun 4, 2014, at 16:03, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
> Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
>>> Valery Smyslov <svanru@gmail.com> wrote: >> Paul ps. i also still
>>> prefer AUTH_NONE over "NULL AUTH", as to me NULL >> looks more like an
>>> error while "none" conveys intent.
>>> 
>>>> I remember it. However I'm still waiting for other's opinions on
>>> this.  > Naming is not a problem.
>>> 
>>> I prefer AUTH_NONE over "NULL AUTH".  Still, that doesn't convey
>>> enough intent; AUTH_DIDNTWANTTO, or something like that might say it
>>> better, but that's a mouthful, so I can live with AUTH_NONE if we
>>> can't do better.
> 
>> AUTH_ANON ? Although I think AUTH_NONE is more in line with how we name
>> things.
> 
> I don't agree that it is anonymous.  It says that the identity was not
> authenticated, it didn't say that no identity was provided.
> 
> Clearly: the identity can't be trusted and can't be used in anyway.
> So, given that, how does one look up acceptable TSx in the PAD?
> 
> I think that the opportunistic encryption use case given can not make any
> sense without reference to the PAD.
> 
> --
> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
> -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
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